Hi Will,

We used this to test hundreds of PRs: 
https://github.com/schubergphilis/MCT-shared/. I can talk you through it 
sometime next week or so if you want.

Regards,
Remi


On 01/03/16 21:50, "williamstev...@gmail.com on behalf of Will Stevens" 
<williamstev...@gmail.com on behalf of wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote:

>Thanks Paul.  Great to hear you are planning to make everything available
>and you are willing to take contributions from the community.
>
>I am currently trying to get up to speed on everything that has been done
>and all the different pieces in play.  I would like to have a CI in place
>(even if it is only locally on my hardware) for testing PRs for 4.9.  My
>focus right now is solving the CI problem, so I am interested in any
>developments on this front.
>
>We have Travis doing smoke tests on every PR right now.  Travis is free for
>open source projects.  Is there a reason we are not doing more extensive
>tests with Travis since it is already integrated into github?  Like maybe
>running the simulator on every PR?  I think this could be a good first step
>to weed out some of the PRs that are likely to fail a full CI run.
>
>Cheers,
>
>*Will STEVENS*
>Lead Developer
>
>*CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
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>On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Will,
>>
>> It will be 100% open source. The $dayjob has blocked the team from working
>> on it recently. I'd like to get some of our ideas into the CloudStack wiki
>> this week before I go on leave for a week.
>> Rohit has created a repo for us: https://github.com/shapeblue/Trillian
>> (which looks a bit sad at the moment - I hope to push our Ansible roles
>> for building mgmt. servers and Marvin boxes into it this week also)
>>
>> Internally we're planning a two week sprint on it starting 14th March.
>> Having to dip in and out of this effort is making it very difficult to get
>> anywhere
>>
>> I think the biggest part of the work will be to get Marvin up to scratch,
>> the log output from the tests is pretty bad.
>>
>> We very much want this to be a community 'thing', and we're happy to work
>> with everyone/anyone to get there.
>>
>> Any ideas on the most effective way to have a number of people on this -
>> I'm all ears.
>> In the meantime I'll try to make good on my promises to get our ideas
>> visible to everyone...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Angus
>> VP Technology   ,       ShapeBlue
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] On
>> Behalf Of Will Stevens
>> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:52 PM
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Important Pending Items
>>
>> @Paul and @Bharat, thank you for the quality write-ups on this topic.
>>
>> re:Paul's Details:
>> I share a lot of your thoughts on this. The hypervisor in hypervisor setup
>> with the ability to test multiple environments is also core to my thinking.
>> I can't find any details on Trillian, other than what is in this thread. Is
>> it open source and freely available? This is being developed at ShapeBlue?
>>
>> re:Bharat's Details:
>> This seems like it is the most likely candidate for being able to offer
>> value in the short term. Thank you for the work documenting it and making
>> the source available. I still need to review the code. This approach will
>> take quite a bit of work get setup initially, but once setup, it looks like
>> it will do the trick. By using only freely available software makes it more
>> accessible than some options which have been suggested in the past.
>>
>> My thoughts on the topic:
>> - I think it is important that the CI can test all the different
>> hypervisors and any hardware integrations available in the environment.
>> - Ideally the CI tool would be easily distributed and installed at
>> multiple sites. Every company who depends on ACS will have their own
>> configuration, hardware and mission critical features. If the CI can be
>> distributed (as independent installs), it will reduce the load on any
>> specific site and it will enable companies who have specific hardware in
>> their direct path to success the ability to validate their use case.
>> - I think a standardized CI output is also important. Ideally the summary
>> of the CI run would be posted back to the PR thread. I think it is also
>> important to push the detailed logs to a central location so others can
>> review them. Ideally, links to the detailed logs would also be pushed to
>> the PR thread.
>> - I think there should be multiple tiers of testing. Basic simulator
>> testing and full runs. We may be able to setup simulator testing using a
>> Docker container. I think @pdion891 has put some work into this that I may
>> be able to build on.
>> - I think it is probably too ambitious to do CI on every PR before merge,
>> but ideally we would We may have to only CI the master branch for now and
>> revert any PR that causes it to fail.
>>
>> I have been digging into this quite a bit today. I will continue working
>> on this as it is very important to me for the 4.9 release. I would like to
>> setup a CI environment locally as well to help validate and contribute to
>> the effort. I have some hardware I can throw at this, so I will be working
>> to get something setup to start testing ASAP.
>>
>> If I can work off either (or both) of your work, I would appreciate it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> *Will STEVENS*
>> Lead Developer
>>
>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|* tw
>> @CloudOps_
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Bharat Kumar <bharat.ku...@citrix.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Paul,
>> >
>> > The goals and functionality of the CI on which we are working are the
>> > same (please review the FS<
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Test+bed+orches
>> > trator+and+test+runner+to+enable+continuos+integration>
>> > ), The difference being the method of implementation. We are not using
>> > nested virtualisation to create test environments. The work on CI
>> > began long back but unfortunately due to other priorities we could not
>> > work on a continuous basis and bring it to completion.
>> >
>> > I agree that we should come to a consensus on what the community wants
>> > from the CI. IMHO the basic and immediate requirement would be to have
>> > a stable system to test the PRs and post results. Once we have this,
>> > we can talk about providing test setups to the community and next
>> > steps. I think the availability of hardware has been a big hurdle
>> > (even if we use virtualisation).
>> >
>> > Instead of working independently on the same thing let us work on this
>> > together. I will share what we have currently, we can use it, or parts
>> > of it (some of it is there at
>> > https://github.com/bvbharatk/cloudstack-automation, but it is not
>> > organised as in cannot be run out of the box). While virtualisation is
>> > good from the ease of orchestration and resource utilisation point of
>> > view, it has other problems like compatibility/dependencies issues.
>> > Also it might tie the CI to a particular Hypervisor like ESXi as you
>> have pointed out.
>> >
>> > So let us discuss on how to proceed further, and get things rolling.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Bharat.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11-Feb-2016, at 9:44 PM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com<mailto:
>> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Bharat,
>> >
>> > Early last week I opened a discussion thread around the aims of
>> > Trillian which we had begun working on as a CI/CD platform for the
>> > community hardware (as well as individual use). Please could you
>> > elaborate on where there is/isn't cross-over? In terms of
>> > functionality and goals rather than method. It would be great to get
>> > community consensus around what we want from our centralised CI/CD.
>> >
>> >
>> > Project: Trillian
>> > We have been working on PoC of a CI environment design which will:
>> > * Provide fast build or rebuild of environments for testing.
>> > * Enable multiple independent concurrent builds
>> > * Be available on-demand through automation or individual request.
>> > * Be capable of fully utilising all available hardware
>> > * Flexible enough to be used to build super-realistic development
>> > environments.
>> > We intend to contribute and maintain our work within the Apache repos.
>> > However, we are currently building the POC, figuring out the
>> > requirements (and quirks) of the individual pieces, before pushing
>> > something concrete for to the community to review.
>> >
>> > We envision that Trillian would cater for a number of use cases:
>> > 1. CloudStack community integration testing of master against multiple
>> > deployment scenarios (using ASF infra) 2. CloudStack community
>> > integration testing of PRs against multiple deployment scenarios
>> > (using ASF infra) 3. Organisations/individuals running the full suites
>> > of tests available in Marvin against any physical environment they
>> > have.
>> > 4. Organisations/individuals deploying and running the full suites of
>> > tests available in Marvin against virtualised infrastructures which
>> > can be deployed by Marvin.
>> > As we intend Trillian to test multiple environments concurrently, we
>> > use nested virtualization on ESXi hosts (our testing has shown that
>> > this is the only hypervisor which can support the nested
>> > virtualisation of all other hypervisors with reasonable performance).
>> > We use Ansible to deploy and configure all aspects of the build as
>> > this will greatly lower the barrier to entry for independent testers.
>> > We use CloudStack to provision the management server and virtualised
>> > (nested) hosts on the physical hosts. We are creating Ansible
>> > playbooks and roles which can:
>> > 1. Create guest instances using Rene's Ansible 2.0 CloudStack modules
>> > - a Marvin VM, a Mgmt Server (CentOS or Ubuntu), any number of compute
>> > hosts (KVM, vSphere or XenServer. Hyper-V later) 2. Configure hosts
>> > (inc. installing the relevant CloudStack agent where
>> > required)
>> > 3. Install required ACS packages on management server 4. Configure a
>> > zone (including adding the compute hosts) via Marvin.
>> > 5. Run the required Marvin tests.
>> > 6. Return the results
>> > We may need to propose enhancements to Marvin in order to sync the
>> > configuration of hosts with the configuration used by Marvin.
>> >
>> > Using virtualised test environments, we can have multiple test
>> > scenarios running concurrently. To do this we have found that it is
>> > necessary to create pools or ranges of VLANs and IP addresses and
>> > allocate them to environments. So for any given physical environment
>> > which will be used for testing in, we take the total range(s) of IPs
>> > and VLANs available and carve them into non-overlapping chunks
>> > suitable for concurrent use as mgmt, public and guest networks. These
>> > are stored in a MariaDB database. When a range is being used in a
>> > testing environment, that range is marked as 'inuse' in the database.
>> > When creating a test environment, Trillian looks in the database for
>> > the next available VLAN range, the next available public IP range and
>> > so on. The returned values are used to populate a Marvin cfg file
>> > which in turn will be used to both build the environment and when
>> > running the Marvin testing. When the virtualised infra is cleaned up,
>> > the database will be updated to reflect that the used ranges are
>> available again.
>> > This initiative has only recently been started, and as stated earlier
>> > we are currently figuring out the requirements (and quirks) of the
>> > individual pieces and looking for the most suitable wrapper to glue it
>> all together.
>> > Also I have found that Marvin requires a little work to make the
>> > output more meaningful/readable (especially in the case of errors and
>> > exceptions) and to make it a little more intelligent about the tests
>> > it can/can't run based on the chosen infrastructure components. I have
>> > also found unreachable or very slow ISO and template paths hardcoded
>> > into Marvin or individual tests.
>> > We plan to enhance tests to address these issues and also reduce
>> > runtimes where possible.
>> >
>> >
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Bharat Kumar [mailto:bharat.ku...@citrix.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:57 AM
>> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Important Pending Items
>> >
>> > Hi Sebastien,
>> >
>> > As Raja said, we are actively working on it and we will share the code
>> > on github soon.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Bharat.
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 11-Feb-2016, at 2:41 PM, Raja Pullela <raja.pull...@citrix.com
>> > <mailto:raja.pull...@citrix.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Sebastien,
>> > >
>> > > On item (3) - the BVTs have been running consistently (with same
>> > passrates) and haven't had the time to automate the process of
>> > reporting to an external site.
>> > > Bharat and Sanjeev are working on CI - running BVTs/Regression,
>> > > working
>> > on getting it run automatically and consistently.
>> > > Hope to see it ready soon.
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > > Raja
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 2:29 PM
>> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>> > > Subject: Important Pending Items
>> > >
>> > > Morning folks,
>> > >
>> > > We have several crucial pending items, that we need to resolve
>> > > before
>> > moving on:
>> > >
>> > > 1- We need an RM for master ( just saw some commits there that
>> > > should be
>> > reverted or merged properly in other branches).
>> > >
>> > > 2- We need to automate writing release notes, pushing/tagging new
>> > > docs
>> > when release come out and announcing releases on website. Currently
>> > neither
>> > 4.7 nor 4.8 have been announced.
>> > >
>> > > 3- CI is still almost inexistent
>> > >
>> > > -Sebastien
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