+1 all the way, sebastien

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote:

> +1 your categories.
>
> Also +1 for the unified thing under cloudstack.apache.org domain.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sebgoa" <run...@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Sent: Monday, 30 November, 2015 10:08:59
> > Subject: Re: Package Repositories
>
> > Hi folks, we need to resolve this.
> >
> > 1-But I have to start with one comment:
> > Apache open office releases binaries, users don't compile from source.
> So it is
> > possible within ASF to officially release binaries.
> >
> > 2-We have several initiatives around repos, apt-get.eu (Wido),
> shapeblue repos,
> > Nux mirrors and image templates.
> > Seems everyone agrees we need a tag team to coordinate all of it and
> offer a
> > unified front.
> >
> > 3-This unified front is great, but it won't happen this week, it will
> take time
> > and dedication.
> >
> > 4-The small issue we are facing is about 3 lines in an HTML file on our
> website.
> > Pierre-Luc and I had a chat Friday, in one of his comments on the PR he
> > suggested that we list 3 categories:
> >
> > - source
> > - community repo
> > - 3-rd party repo
> >
> > I am +1 with this, why ?
> >
> > -source is a no brainer
> > - community repo (apt-get) because that's our defacto pkg repo even
> though we
> > don't vote on packages. There was not vote to say these were our
> community repo
> > but that's a fact. Several people have access to the machine and can make
> > updates etc...
> > - 3rd party, allows us to list vendor pkg repo. The more vendors provide
> > CloudStack the better. I see it a bit like the "books" discussions we had
> > couple years ago. We do not endorse them, but we should promote them.
> >
> > In our docs however, we should not be referencing 3rd party repos, and
> any URLs
> > should be cloudstack project specific.
> >
> > Can you please reply with your vote on these 3 categories. I think it's a
> > compromise that helps us move forward.
> >
> > -sebastien
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Doesn't that meant that we'll have to vote on the source and the
> packaged
> >>> rpms/debs otherwise they we have no official community standing. ?
> >>>
> >> ​I am not sure how we can give them official standing yet but we are the
> >> apache foundation​, so we vote on source. I would say we vote on the
> >> packaging software from a different repo then the core+plugins and
> >> automatically update a repo from that one. The repo will not be endorsed
> >> but the way it is filled will be.
> >>
> >> my €0,02 of future dreams
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: 27 November 2015 09:36
> >>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: Package Repositories
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So. My understanding is that to make the packages in the repo
> 'official'
> >>>> they must be voted on.  -- would we make the packages what we vote on,
> >>>> rather that the source code (bearing in mind you can't separate the
> >>>> packaging in that case).   IMHO, it'll make testing a whole lot
> simpler
> >>> for
> >>>> folks if there is just no requirement to build from source.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ​We will not stop voting on the source! Any vote on -, or otherwise
> >>> handling of packages is a separate thing.​
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> > > Daan
>



-- 
Daan

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