WTF are CTP + RTM? On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Alex Hitchins <alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > Hugo, are you talking about having a CTP release when the feature is > somewhere near ready but subject to change? > > I think this is a really good idea. Publish a RTM (if we can call it that) > then shortly after people can release CTP with their features in. Interested > parties can then try, discuss and give feedback. This then gets rolled up > into the next, or future RTM version. > > It could help with testing and I feel would help prevent mad dash races to > squeeze stuff into the next release. > > I guess there would need to be some management of the whole process, but I > really think it could work. > > Regards > > Alex Hitchins > > D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423 969 > > alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 28 March 2014 10:06 > To: Hugo Trippaers > Cc: dev; Donal Lafferty > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][Merge] Windowsfication of management server > > Is there a notion of silent preview (possible) in our release scheme? > Maybe accompanied with a big nullification of warranty. It seems we don't > have anything like 'experimental'; a class of features that maybe removed for > reasons explicable to the greater public. It seems like whatever we do we > will paint ourselfs in the corner while we would want to segregate between > core functionality that will be supported till the foreseeable end of time > and features of which we are not yet sure they are as such useful. (I should > start a [DISCUSS] but i think it is very applicable to this feature.) > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Hugo Trippaers <h...@trippaers.nl> wrote: >> Hey, >> >> 4.4 is in feature freeze, so no new features will be added. I think its fair >> to debate if this is a feature in that sense. It seems like minor changes >> and the addition of a few scripts, making it a simple change in my view. It >> would be great to be able to announce this, but for it to be part of a >> release i think we need a couple of other things to be done. The most >> prominent are, packaging, testing and documentation. >> >> Documentation: >> If we want to ship this with 4.4 and announce that CS now runs on >> windows we need to have the installation manual covered at least. >> >> Packaging: >> We can't expect our users to build it themselves on windows. So we >> need some kind of packaging that people can install on their windows server. >> >> Testing: >> We need to automagically verify that these changes aren't affected >> by future changes. I would expect to see the packaging and functional tests >> on starting and stopping CS on a windows host as part of the automated test >> procedure. I'd be happy to work with you to set it up on Jenkins. >> >> >> If we can fix these items before the bug fix phase i'd be +1 to include this >> in the 4.4 release, but of course this is depending on the consensus in the >> community. I'm just the RM, not the guy who decides what goes into a release. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hugo >> >> >> On 28 mrt. 2014, at 06:14, Abhinandan Prateek >> <abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com> wrote: >> >>> It will be really nice to get the preview code for windowsfication in 4.4. >>> https://reviews.apache.org/r/18964/ >>> The changes are well segregated. >>> >>> -abhi >>> >>> On 28/03/14 10:26 am, "Damoder Reddy" <damoder.re...@citrix.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hugo, >>>> >>>> Can Windowsfication be cherry-picked to 4.4 from master ? It is now >>>> well reviewed and tested. Due to review process it got delayed to >>>> commit to 4.4 earlier. >>>> >>>> Thanks & Regards >>>> Damodar/ >>>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Daan > Need Enterprise Grade Support for Apache CloudStack? > Our CloudStack Infrastructure > Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> offers the > best 24/7 SLA for CloudStack Environments. > > Apache CloudStack Bootcamp training courses > > **NEW!** CloudStack 4.2.1 training<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > 18th-19th February 2014, Brazil. > Classroom<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > 17th-23rd March 2014, Region A. Instructor led, > On-line<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > 24th-28th March 2014, Region B. Instructor led, > On-line<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > 16th-20th June 2014, Region A. Instructor led, > On-line<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/> > 23rd-27th June 2014, Region B. 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