+1 Santhosh ________________________________________ From: Kelcey Jamison Damage [kel...@backbonetechnology.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:02 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Cloudstack collab Hackathons
+1 again for KVM in Python! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Shepherd" <darren.s.sheph...@gmail.com> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:54:26 PM Subject: Re: Cloudstack collab Hackathons +1 for kvm in python. I'd like to take it a step further. I'd like to create a framework for adding compute and storage with python drivers. The first implementation should just happen to be libvirt/kvm. So yeah, I'll be interested in this. I'll be landing around 10am so don't know what time I'll get to the hackathon. Darren > On Oct 14, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Marcus Sorensen <shadow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Hugo Trippaers <trip...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Guys, >>> >>> The CloudStack collaboration conference is right around the corner. The >>> first day of the conference will be dedicated to workshops and a hackathon. >>> >>> I'm curious which developers are planning to attend the hackthon and what >>> subjects you are interested in. In Santa Clara we had a short list of some >>> subjects to discuss and some tables and discussions were already prepared >>> in advance. In the upcoming conference we can do the same, so if you have a >>> discussion or project idea that you want to work on at the hackthon let us >>> know with a reply in this thread. >>> >>> I'm also curious if there are any aspiring developers that would like to >>> have a sort of introduction into cloudstack development during the >>> hackathon. >>> >>> If you have any other ideas, just shout. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Hugo >> >> I am adding couple topics that I would like to see: >> >> -API interfaces (AWS refactor, GCE, OCCI&CIMI standard): Discuss the state >> of our interfaces, plans for future, needs etc. AWS interface might need a >> refactor, GCE is a new interface, OCCI is a standard and Isaac Chiang has >> developed an interface. We are missing a CIMI interface. >> >> -DOCs: We are having lots of talks about docs, they have been split in a >> separate repo, we need to discuss format, release life cycle, format etc. >> >> -KVM agent: There has been discussions/wishes to re-write the KVM agent in >> something else than Java. Review architecture, define a plan, find >> developers :) > > What? First I've heard of it! I'm not sure how I feel about that. On > one side, it seems reasonable to do it in something like python and > remove the java dependency on the KVM host. On the other hand, there's > a lot of technical debt in what's been built already, while it would > probably be almost trivial to set up a basic working agent, it seems > like a significant amount of work to transfer all of the > functionality, special code that works around libvirt bugs, etc. Not > to mention agent plugins that have already had a significant amount of > effort put into them. On top of that, I'm not sure there's a whole lot > of value if the motive is to attract non-java guys or admins, when the > agent's features rely on what the mgmt server can do (new > features/capabilities would require java code anyway, or at the very > least coordinated effort between multiple devs who want the same > feature). > >> >> -Ecosystem: The are lots of tools in the cloud ecosystem, we should talk >> about docker, ansible, cloud foundry/bosh…etc.and define a plan to have >> great cloudstack support in all of those. >> >> -sebastien >> >>