+1 again for KVM in Python! 

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From: "Darren Shepherd" <darren.s.sheph...@gmail.com> 
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:54:26 PM 
Subject: Re: Cloudstack collab Hackathons 

+1 for kvm in python. I'd like to take it a step further. I'd like to create a 
framework for adding compute and storage with python drivers. The first 
implementation should just happen to be libvirt/kvm. So yeah, I'll be 
interested in this. I'll be landing around 10am so don't know what time I'll 
get to the hackathon. 

Darren 

> On Oct 14, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Marcus Sorensen <shadow...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote: 
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Hugo Trippaers <trip...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Hey Guys, 
>>> 
>>> The CloudStack collaboration conference is right around the corner. The 
>>> first day of the conference will be dedicated to workshops and a hackathon. 
>>> 
>>> I'm curious which developers are planning to attend the hackthon and what 
>>> subjects you are interested in. In Santa Clara we had a short list of some 
>>> subjects to discuss and some tables and discussions were already prepared 
>>> in advance. In the upcoming conference we can do the same, so if you have a 
>>> discussion or project idea that you want to work on at the hackthon let us 
>>> know with a reply in this thread. 
>>> 
>>> I'm also curious if there are any aspiring developers that would like to 
>>> have a sort of introduction into cloudstack development during the 
>>> hackathon. 
>>> 
>>> If you have any other ideas, just shout. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers, 
>>> 
>>> Hugo 
>> 
>> I am adding couple topics that I would like to see: 
>> 
>> -API interfaces (AWS refactor, GCE, OCCI&CIMI standard): Discuss the state 
>> of our interfaces, plans for future, needs etc. AWS interface might need a 
>> refactor, GCE is a new interface, OCCI is a standard and Isaac Chiang has 
>> developed an interface. We are missing a CIMI interface. 
>> 
>> -DOCs: We are having lots of talks about docs, they have been split in a 
>> separate repo, we need to discuss format, release life cycle, format etc. 
>> 
>> -KVM agent: There has been discussions/wishes to re-write the KVM agent in 
>> something else than Java. Review architecture, define a plan, find 
>> developers :) 
> 
> What? First I've heard of it! I'm not sure how I feel about that. On 
> one side, it seems reasonable to do it in something like python and 
> remove the java dependency on the KVM host. On the other hand, there's 
> a lot of technical debt in what's been built already, while it would 
> probably be almost trivial to set up a basic working agent, it seems 
> like a significant amount of work to transfer all of the 
> functionality, special code that works around libvirt bugs, etc. Not 
> to mention agent plugins that have already had a significant amount of 
> effort put into them. On top of that, I'm not sure there's a whole lot 
> of value if the motive is to attract non-java guys or admins, when the 
> agent's features rely on what the mgmt server can do (new 
> features/capabilities would require java code anyway, or at the very 
> least coordinated effort between multiple devs who want the same 
> feature). 
> 
>> 
>> -Ecosystem: The are lots of tools in the cloud ecosystem, we should talk 
>> about docker, ansible, cloud foundry/bosh…etc.and define a plan to have 
>> great cloudstack support in all of those. 
>> 
>> -sebastien 
>> 
>> 

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