On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 05:56:24PM +0000, Edison Su wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Burwell [mailto:jburw...@basho.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 7:53 AM
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Cc: 'Chip Childers'
> > Subject: Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 
> > 4.2?
> > 
> > Edison,
> > 
> > As I read through this thread, we seem to be conflating the following 
> > topics:
> > 
> >     1. Feature regression testing per release cycle
> >     2. Identifying and back porting defect fixes to previous releases
> >     3. Feature removal process
> > 
> > To my mind, these topics are completely unrelated.  We have regression test
> > and defect triage processes to address items 1 and 2.  If you feel that they
> > can be improved, then we should discuss those improvements in a separate
> > thread.  No community or system will be perfect.  I believe the best we can
> > do is seek to do it better today than yesterday.  To that end, observing 
> > that
> > we did something poorly in the past does not justify continuing to do it
> > poorly or removing a feature on which users are relying.
> > 
> > 
> > I am concerned about item 3 -- the merge of a feature removal without
> > community consensus.  If you *think* a feature is broken in a previous
> 
> This feature is not been tested since about one and half year ago, nobody 
> knows the status of swift integration.
> If we can't claim to support Swift in 4.0, 4.1, then why you think I am 
> removing a feature?

Edison, I'm working under the assumption that Swift support was simply
missed in the refactoring.  If this isn't the case, then please be
explicit that you made the decision to not include it.  If this is the
case, then can't we agree that it needs to be rectified?

-chip

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