> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Burwell [mailto:jburw...@basho.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:42 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: 'Chip Childers'
> Subject: Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?
> 
> All,
> 
> I apologize for losing track of this issue.  We discussed the lack of Swift
> support briefly in late May/early June as part of the first round review, but 
> I
> completely lost track of it in the sea of items being addressed.
> 
> This gap represents a feature deprecation without any community discussion.
> A lack of code changes or test requests for a feature does not translate to no
> usage.  It also does not provide license for a feature to be dropped without

They are not directly translated to no usage, but as all the code(swift/s3/nfs) 
are glued together in pre-object-store-branch-merge, it's likely one guy fixes 
a bug for nfs, will break swift/s3.
If the feature is nobody verified for each release(since 4.0), how many 
confidence do we have, that the feature is still working?

> community discussion and consensus.
> 
> In summary, post merge is not the time to be asking this question.  I am

I am asking the question, because, nobody knows the status of swift since 4.0, 
should I need to make sure the features that not been tested for a long time to 
work?
If we want to support this feature, then we need to gather the requirement, for 
example, the Swift, also coming with S3 compatible 
API(http://www.buildcloudstorage.com/2011/11/s3-apis-on-openstack-swift.html),
Is it OK to just support S3 api, instead of using swift's native API?

> concerned about the precedent this action will set in future release cycles.
> Furthermore, re-implementation of a feature should be complete.  To me, it
> is not acceptable to say, "I re-implemented the functionality with which I was
> familiar.  Hey, community, if you like those other parts, you will need to 
> fill in
> the gaps."  To my mind, a feature re-implementation should not be
> acceptable until it implements all of the capabilities it is replacing.


> 
> Thanks,
> -John
> 
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Sudha Ponnaganti <sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Swift was tested for older version of Citrix release. There were  no code
> changes or certification requests, so that area was deprioritized.
> >
> > Thanks
> > /Sudha
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Edison Su [mailto:edison...@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:15 AM
> > To: 'Chip Childers'; <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 
> > 4.2?
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 6:46 AM
> >> To: <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>; Edison Su
> >> Subject: Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 
> >> 4.2?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:22 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Edison Su <edison...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>>> Due to object store refactor, Swift is broken. The reason, is that,
> >>>> we only
> >> have S3 test environment in our lab, so only S3 is tested for now.
> >>>> Before adding the feature back, I'd better ask from, the community,
> >>>> do
> >> we want to support Swift? If so, which version of Swift? This will
> >> take some efforts to support Swift, are there any volunteers can help the
> integration?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Whats the bug ID for this?
> >>> Unplanned/Unannounced deprecation of a feature is a blocker IMO. It
> >>> engenders a bad relationship with our users, and strands them on
> >>> previous versions with no good migration/upgrade path.
> >>>
> >>> --David
> >>>
> >>
> >> Edison, How broken is it?  Is it shorter to fix or revert the object
> >> store changes?
> > It's not working at all. Not sure, revert object store will change it or 
> > not, as
> this feature is not tested by QA for a long time.
> >

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