> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 11:00 AM
> To: Edison Su
> Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?
> 
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 05:56:24PM +0000, Edison Su wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Burwell [mailto:jburw...@basho.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 7:53 AM
> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Cc: 'Chip Childers'
> > > Subject: Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in
> 4.2?
> > >
> > > Edison,
> > >
> > > As I read through this thread, we seem to be conflating the following
> topics:
> > >
> > >   1. Feature regression testing per release cycle
> > >   2. Identifying and back porting defect fixes to previous releases
> > >   3. Feature removal process
> > >
> > > To my mind, these topics are completely unrelated.  We have
> > > regression test and defect triage processes to address items 1 and
> > > 2.  If you feel that they can be improved, then we should discuss
> > > those improvements in a separate thread.  No community or system
> > > will be perfect.  I believe the best we can do is seek to do it
> > > better today than yesterday.  To that end, observing that we did
> > > something poorly in the past does not justify continuing to do it poorly 
> > > or
> removing a feature on which users are relying.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am concerned about item 3 -- the merge of a feature removal
> > > without community consensus.  If you *think* a feature is broken in
> > > a previous
> >
> > This feature is not been tested since about one and half year ago, nobody
> knows the status of swift integration.
> > If we can't claim to support Swift in 4.0, 4.1, then why you think I am
> removing a feature?
> 
> But we *do* claim that support. See [1].
> 
> Not having tested it is *not* the same as saying that it isn't supported.
> 
> [1] http://cloudstack.apache.org/docs/en-
> US/Apache_CloudStack/4.1.0/html/Installation_Guide/about-secondary-
> storage.html

IMHO, saying something is supported without tested for each release is worse 
than saying not supported.

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