Merge path for bugs on 3.0 is pretty brutal at this point. Good thing 2 will 
drop off when we GA 5.0.

Updated wiki w/new branches plus some examples: link 
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Patching%2C+versioning%2C+and+LTS+releases>

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Mick Semb Wever wrote:
> 
> Forward merging cassandra-4.1 … cassandra-5.0 … trunk is now required ! 
> 
> trunk is still got 5.0 in the build.xml, but that's only temporary until 
> 18705 lands, and of no harm i believe… (i could easily be wrong, but not 
> AFAIK)
> 
> 
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 13:38, Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is this intended to be used now and change the merge order?  I ask
>> because 18705 mentions bumping build.xml and CHANGES.txt amongst
>> others that haven't been done which is leading to confusion.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Brandon
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 4:46 PM Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > With no objections, and everything folk mentioned above in, the 
>> > cassandra-5.0 branch is cut.
>> >
>> > Next steps are bumping trunk to 5.1 and then cutting a 5.0-alpha1
>> >
>> > The bumping to 5.1 has a few steps involved in it, but the initial in-tree 
>> > PRs are ready for review, with CI being run, see CASSANDRA-18705
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 00:00, Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> +1 to everything stated here.
>> >>
>> >> Kind Regards,
>> >> Brandon
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 5:28 PM Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The previous thread¹ on when to freeze 5.0 landed on freezing the first 
>> >> > week of August, with a waiver in place for TCM and Accord to land later 
>> >> > (but before October).
>> >> >
>> >> > With JDK8 now dropped and SAI and UCS merged, the only expected 5.0 
>> >> > work that hasn't landed is Vector search (CEP-30).
>> >> >
>> >> > Are there any objections to a waiver on Vector search?  All the 
>> >> > groundwork: SAI and the vector type; has been merged, with all 
>> >> > remaining work expected to land in August.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm keen to freeze and see us shift gears – there's already SO MUCH in 
>> >> > 5.0 and a long list of flakies.  It takes time and patience to triage 
>> >> > and identify the bugs that hit us before GA.  The freeze is about being 
>> >> > "mostly feature complete",  so we have room for things before our first 
>> >> > beta (precedence is to ask).   If we hope for a GA by December, account 
>> >> > for the 6 weeks turnaround time for cutting and voting on one alpha, 
>> >> > one beta, and one rc release, and the quiet period that August is, we 
>> >> > really only have September and October left.
>> >> >
>> >> > I already feel this is asking a bit of a miracle from us given how 4.1 
>> >> > went (and I'm hoping I will be proven wrong).
>> >> >
>> >> > In addition, are there any objections to cutting an 5.0-alpha1 release 
>> >> > as soon as we freeze?
>> >> >
>> >> > This is on the understanding vector, tcm and accord will become 
>> >> > available in later alphas.  Originally the discussion¹ was waiting for 
>> >> > Accord for alpha1, but a number of folk off-list have requested earlier 
>> >> > alphas to help with testing.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ¹) https://lists.apache.org/thread/9c5cnn57c7oqw8wzo3zs0dkrm4f17lm3

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