+1 on freeze 1st August with the suggested waiver. Also, +1 on the idea for alpha 1, as long as we give straight upfront the right expectations to users.
Now, when we added also JDK17 in CI, I want to encourage people to start testing it in their test environments and give us some feedback. On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 at 18:39, J. D. Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think this plan seems reasonable to me. +1 > > -Jeremiah > > On Jul 26, 2023, at 5:28 PM, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > The previous thread¹ on when to freeze 5.0 landed on freezing the first > week of August, with a waiver in place for TCM and Accord to land later > (but before October). > > With JDK8 now dropped and SAI and UCS merged, the only expected 5.0 work > that hasn't landed is Vector search (CEP-30). > > Are there any objections to a waiver on Vector search? All the > groundwork: SAI and the vector type; has been merged, with all remaining > work expected to land in August. > > I'm keen to freeze and see us shift gears – there's already SO MUCH in 5.0 > and a long list of flakies. It takes time and patience to triage and > identify the bugs that hit us before GA. The freeze is about being "mostly > feature complete", so we have room for things before our first beta > (precedence is to ask). If we hope for a GA by December, account for the > 6 weeks turnaround time for cutting and voting on one alpha, one beta, and > one rc release, and the quiet period that August is, we really only have > September and October left. > > I already feel this is asking a bit of a miracle from us given how 4.1 > went (and I'm hoping I will be proven wrong). > > In addition, are there any objections to cutting an 5.0-alpha1 release as > soon as we freeze? > > This is on the understanding vector, tcm and accord will become available > in later alphas. Originally the discussion¹ was waiting for Accord for > alpha1, but a number of folk off-list have requested earlier alphas to help > with testing. > > > ¹) https://lists.apache.org/thread/9c5cnn57c7oqw8wzo3zs0dkrm4f17lm3 > >
