We can also enforce this with checkstyle, whatever we decide.

Kind Regards,
Brandon

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 9:25 AM Derek Chen-Becker <de...@chen-becker.org> wrote:
>
> +1 from me with some concerns.
>
> Agrona looks like a nice lib, and I like what I've seen skimming the docs, 
> but I think there's a longer-term discussion around whether we want to do 
> anything about bringing in a library that effectively duplicates a bunch of 
> standard lib constructs. My main concern is cognitive load if there are 
> subtle semantic differences, say, between Agrona and stdlib buffers or any 
> other construct where we might have both in the codebase. If we think Agrona 
> has better buffers (or locking, timers, etc), should we be talking about 
> replacing usage of stdlib with Agrona throughout, or making a recommendation 
> for one over the other for future work?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Derek
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 12:26 AM Benedict <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Also +1
>>
>> On 23 Sep 2022, at 18:17, David Capwell <dcapw...@apple.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1 from me
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2022, at 1:21 AM, Branimir Lambov <branimir.lam...@datastax.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The usage in the trie memtable is only for volatile access to buffers. In 
>> this case I chose the library instead of reimplementing the functionality 
>> (e.g. as methods in `ByteBufferUtil`) because the relevant interface makes 
>> sense and the library is a good quality one that contains a range of other 
>> utilities that can be very useful to Cassandra.
>>
>> In other words, I personally would welcome opening Cassandra up to using 
>> other parts of Agrona, and am asking if the community shares this sentiment.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Branimir
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:15 PM Derek Chen-Becker <de...@chen-becker.org> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Agrona looks like it has quite a bit more than just buffers, so if we add 
>>> this as a dependency for the new memtable, would it potentially open up use 
>>> of other parts of Agrona (wittingly or not)? Unless I misunderstood, wasn't 
>>> part of the new memtable implementation an interface to allow this to be 
>>> pluggable? Could we avoid bringing it in as a full dependency for Cassandra 
>>> if the trie memtable were packaged separately as a plugin instead of being 
>>> included directly?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:41 AM Benedict <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In principle no, it’s a high quality library. But it might help to briefly 
>>>> outline what it’s used for. I assume it is instead of ByteBuffer? In which 
>>>> case it could maybe be worthwhile discussing as a project how we foresee 
>>>> interaction with existing buffer machinery, and maybe how we expect our 
>>>> buffer use to evolve on the project, as we already have several buffers.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I anticipate our buffer use changing significantly with the 
>>>> introduction of value types and native memory improvements coming in 
>>>> future Java releases, so my personal inclination is just to accept the 
>>>> dependency.
>>>>
>>>> On 21 Sep 2022, at 13:29, Branimir Lambov <blam...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> CASSANDRA-17240 (Trie memtable implementation) introduces a dependency on 
>>>> the agrona  library (https://github.com/real-logic/agrona).
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any objections to adding this dependency?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Branimir
>>>
>>>
>>>
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