All for using six and supporting both. Sorry, I read your initial email as wanting to drop support for 2 at the end of the year.
> On Jun 1, 2018, at 1:01 PM, Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote: > > And that's why I said supporting both with six is the right path > forward, later dropping support for 2. I'm not advocating we drop 2 > support now, and I'm not asking for any sort of commitment. I didn't > think adding support for 3 would be so controversial. > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:40 AM Jeremiah D Jordan > <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The community of people doing python development and the community of people >> running Cassandra servers are not the same. I am not fine riding the coat >> tails of libraries used in python development. As others have stated we >> need to be following the lead of the OS vendors that people will be >> deploying Cassandra on top of. And those will not be dropping Python 2 at >> the end of the year. >> >> -Jeremiah >> >>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 12:37 PM, Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote: >>> >>> Both can work. I did a lot of the work on the port of the Python >>> driver's object mapper (formerly cqlengine) to Python 3. It's >>> reasonably straightforward if you use the six library. >>> >>> Both pandas and numpy are dropping support for Python 2 at the end of >>> this year. I'm fine with riding on their coattails. >>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:21 AM Russell Bateman <r...@windofkeltia.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Support for, but not the very script, right? Because, as gently pointed >>>> out by several realists here, Python 2 is far from dead and arguably >>>> still the majority usage. That's only just now beginning to change. I >>>> think it will be more than 2 years before people begin asking what >>>> Python 2 was. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 06/01/2018 10:10 AM, Jonathan Haddad wrote: >>>>> Supporting both as a next step is logical, removing support for 2 in the >>>>> next year or two seems reasonable enough. Gotta rip the band aid off at >>>>> some point. >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:34 AM Michael Burman <mibur...@redhat.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Deprecating in this context does not mean removing it or it being >>>>>> replaced by 3 (RHEL 7.x will remain with Python 2.x as default). It >>>>>> refers to future versions (>7), but there are none at this point. It >>>>>> appears Ubuntu has deviated from Debian in this sense, but Debian has >>>>>> not changed yet (likely Debian 10 will, but that's not out yet and has >>>>>> no announced release date). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thus, 2.x still remains the most used version for servers. And servers >>>>>> deployed at this point of time will use these versions for years. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Micke >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 06/01/2018 10:52 AM, Murukesh Mohanan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2018/06/01 07:40:04, Michael Burman <mibur...@redhat.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> IIRC, there's no major distribution yet that defaults to Python 3 (I >>>>>>>> think Ubuntu & Debian are still defaulting to Python 2 also). This will >>>>>>>> happen eventually (maybe), but not yet. Discarding Python 2 support >>>>>>>> would mean more base-OS work for most people wanting to run Cassandra >>>>>>>> and that's not a positive thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ubuntu since 16.04 defaults to Python 3: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Python2 is not installed anymore by default on the server, cloud and >>>>>> the touch images, long live Python3! Python3 itself has been upgraded to >>>>>> the 3.5 series. - >>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.ubuntu.com_XenialXerus_ReleaseNotes-23Python-5F3&d=DwIBaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=J5Su6wvm91QrOBcici7HyIiFiyzjrg8UnamYu8qtSRA&s=9OWAbO26grwiI2ly_-gAGBqJP9Mv6KPAKJyQu_OEDPc&e= >>>>>>> RHEL 7.5 deprecates Python 2 ( >>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__access.redhat.com_documentation_en-2Dus_red-5Fhat-5Fenterprise-5Flinux_7_html_7.5-5Frelease-5Fnotes_chap-2Dred-5Fhat-5Fenterprise-5Flinux-2D7.5-5Frelease-5Fnotes-2Ddeprecated-5Ffunctionality&d=DwIBaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=J5Su6wvm91QrOBcici7HyIiFiyzjrg8UnamYu8qtSRA&s=CDFufWbcvq6VpoLJQVbCQP9rpvIv3ssNtKMQce-1vwU&e= >>>>>> ). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> Jon Haddad >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rustyrazorblade.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=J5Su6wvm91QrOBcici7HyIiFiyzjrg8UnamYu8qtSRA&s=ElPVVa0MdfruNq11vJS0JQo6LYDBQVJIVMFHQIEHnT4&e= >>>>> twitter: rustyrazorblade >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jon Haddad >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rustyrazorblade.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=J5Su6wvm91QrOBcici7HyIiFiyzjrg8UnamYu8qtSRA&s=ElPVVa0MdfruNq11vJS0JQo6LYDBQVJIVMFHQIEHnT4&e= >>> twitter: rustyrazorblade >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > > -- > Jon Haddad > http://www.rustyrazorblade.com > twitter: rustyrazorblade > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
