And that's why I said supporting both with six is the right path forward, later dropping support for 2. I'm not advocating we drop 2 support now, and I'm not asking for any sort of commitment. I didn't think adding support for 3 would be so controversial. On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:40 AM Jeremiah D Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The community of people doing python development and the community of people > running Cassandra servers are not the same. I am not fine riding the coat > tails of libraries used in python development. As others have stated we need > to be following the lead of the OS vendors that people will be deploying > Cassandra on top of. And those will not be dropping Python 2 at the end of > the year. > > -Jeremiah > > > On Jun 1, 2018, at 12:37 PM, Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote: > > > > Both can work. I did a lot of the work on the port of the Python > > driver's object mapper (formerly cqlengine) to Python 3. It's > > reasonably straightforward if you use the six library. > > > > Both pandas and numpy are dropping support for Python 2 at the end of > > this year. I'm fine with riding on their coattails. > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:21 AM Russell Bateman <r...@windofkeltia.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Support for, but not the very script, right? Because, as gently pointed > >> out by several realists here, Python 2 is far from dead and arguably > >> still the majority usage. That's only just now beginning to change. I > >> think it will be more than 2 years before people begin asking what > >> Python 2 was. > >> > >> > >> On 06/01/2018 10:10 AM, Jonathan Haddad wrote: > >>> Supporting both as a next step is logical, removing support for 2 in the > >>> next year or two seems reasonable enough. Gotta rip the band aid off at > >>> some point. > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:34 AM Michael Burman <mibur...@redhat.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Deprecating in this context does not mean removing it or it being > >>>> replaced by 3 (RHEL 7.x will remain with Python 2.x as default). It > >>>> refers to future versions (>7), but there are none at this point. It > >>>> appears Ubuntu has deviated from Debian in this sense, but Debian has > >>>> not changed yet (likely Debian 10 will, but that's not out yet and has > >>>> no announced release date). > >>>> > >>>> Thus, 2.x still remains the most used version for servers. And servers > >>>> deployed at this point of time will use these versions for years. > >>>> > >>>> - Micke > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 06/01/2018 10:52 AM, Murukesh Mohanan wrote: > >>>>> On 2018/06/01 07:40:04, Michael Burman <mibur...@redhat.com> wrote: > >>>>>> IIRC, there's no major distribution yet that defaults to Python 3 (I > >>>>>> think Ubuntu & Debian are still defaulting to Python 2 also). This will > >>>>>> happen eventually (maybe), but not yet. Discarding Python 2 support > >>>>>> would mean more base-OS work for most people wanting to run Cassandra > >>>>>> and that's not a positive thing. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Ubuntu since 16.04 defaults to Python 3: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Python2 is not installed anymore by default on the server, cloud and > >>>> the touch images, long live Python3! 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