+1 for GitHub discussions as well. But I am also little concerned about
multiple places for discussions. As Danny said, if we have a good plan on
how to move forward on how/when to archive the current mailing list, that
would be great.

Thanks,
Anand

On Sat, Jul 1, 2023, 3:21 AM Damon Douglas <douglas.da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm very strong +1 for replacing the use of Email with GitHub Discussions.
> Thank you for bringing this up.
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 7:38 AM Danny McCormick via dev <
> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for starting this discussion!
>>
>> I'm a weak -1 for this proposal. While I think that GH Discussions can be
>> a good forum, I think most of the things that Discussions do are covered by
>> some combination of the dev/user lists and GitHub issues, and the net
>> outcome of this will be creating one more forum to pay attention to. I know
>> in the past we've had a hard time keeping up with Stack overflow questions
>> for a similar reason. With that said, I'm not opposed to trying it out and
>> experimenting as long as we have (a) clear criteria for understanding if
>> the change is effective or not (can be subjective), (b) a clear idea of
>> when we'd revisit the discussion, and (c) a clear path to rollback the
>> decision without it being *too *much work (this might mean something
>> like disabling future discussions and keeping the history or somehow moving
>> the history to the dev or user list). If we do this, I also think we should
>> update https://beam.apache.org/community/contact-us/ with a clear
>> taxonomy of what goes where (this is what I'm unsure of today).
>>
>> FWIW, if we were proposing cutting either the user list or both the user
>> and dev list in favor of discussions, I would be +1. I do think the
>> advantages of discussions over email are real (threaded, easy to convert
>> to/from issues, markdown, one place for all things Beam).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Danny
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 10:23 AM Svetak Sundhar via dev <
>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I wanted to start a discussion to gauge interest on enabling Github
>>> Discussions <https://docs.github.com/en/discussions/quickstart> in
>>> Apache Beam.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pros:
>>>
>>> + GH Discussions allows for folks to get unblocked on small/medium
>>> implementation blocker (Google employees can often get this help by
>>> scheduling a call with teammates whereas there is a larger barrier for
>>> non-Google employees to get this help).
>>>
>>> + On the above point, more visibility into the development blockers that
>>> others have previously faced.
>>>
>>> + GH Discussions is more discoverable and approachable for new users and
>>> contributors.
>>>
>>> + A centralized place to have discussions. Long term, it makes sense to
>>> eventually fully migrate to GH Discussions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cons:
>>>
>>> - For a period of time when we use both the dev list and GH Discussions,
>>> context can be confusing.
>>>
>>> - Anything else?
>>>
>>>
>>> To be clear, I’m not advocating that we move off the dev list
>>> immediately. I propose that over time we slowly start moving discussions
>>> over to GH discussions, utilizing things such as the poll feature.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am aware that the Airflow project [1] uses both GH Discussions today
>>> and a dev@ list [2] today.
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
>>>
>>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@airflow.apache.org
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Svetak Sundhar
>>>
>>>   Data Engineer
>>> s <nellywil...@google.com>vetaksund...@google.com
>>>
>>>

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