Hi Kou and Raul,

Thanks for bringing this to the discussion. I would like to put a +1 on
Raul's proposal as this might be the best balance between the availability
of conda-forge and our release cost.

Another side (maybe dumb) question though: Is it
regular/normal/officially-supported in conda-forge to port a specific patch
for a specific release? Just want to have a feeling about how much sense
our proposal makes from the perspective of conda-forge.

Thank you.

*Regards,*
*Rossi SUN*


On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 11:08 PM Raúl Cumplido <rau...@apache.org> wrote:

> El jue, 24 oct 2024 a las 0:14, Sutou Kouhei (<k...@clear-code.com>)
> escribió:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > There are no -1 vote yet here but a conda-forge package
> > maintainer reports a cross-compiling related problem in
> > 18.0.0 RC0:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/arrow/issues/44448#issuecomment-2431000046
> >
> > > When a major distribution channel ends up being broken,
> > > that should be the definition of a release blocker, even
> > > though we'll manage to backport the patch (again, thanks
> > > for that). It's not about the effort to backport, it's
> > > about what role conda-forge has. With several million
> > > downloads, the arrow feedstock should IMO be important
> > > enough to be a release consideration (that's originally
> > > why the conda-forge CI was integrated into this repo...)
> >
> > The issue includes 2 problems: (1) <nmmintrin.h> related and
> > (2) grpc_cpp_plugin related.
> >
> > (1) is a CMake usage problem by the conda-forge package. So
> > this is not a 18.0.0 RC0 blocker.
> >
> > (2) is a cross-compiling problem. Apache Arrow C++ doesn't
> > have enough cross-compiling support so far because our CI
> > doesn't have cross-compiling jobs except
> > dev/tasks/conda-recipes/ related jobs and Emscripten related
> > jobs.
> >
> > dev/tasks/conda-recipes/ related jobs are based on
> > https://github.com/conda-forge/arrow-cpp-feedstock . So we
> > need to keep synchronizing them to detect conda-forge
> > package related problems.
> >
> > The last sync is done by
> > https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/37624 (2023-09-28). So
> > dev/tasks/conda-recipes/ isn't the latest.
> >
> > FYI: https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/44507 is the patch
> > for (2).
> >
> >
> > Should we release RC0 as 18.0.0? Or should we cut RC1 with
> > some patches including the patch for (2)? Could you share
> > your thought?
> >
> > I think that we can release RC0 as 18.0.0 because:
> >
> > * This is not a regression. The cross-compiling problem
> >   exists in the past releases.
> > * Unfortunately, our release cost is still high... Cutting a
> >   new RC isn't light operation...
> >
>
> I shared my opinion on the GH issue but to me it comes more to the
> release cost and the alternative solution.
> I would personally consider the issue a release blocker if we wouldn't
> have a solution and conda-forge was broken with the new release.
> Having a patch that can be easily backported and with the current
> costs to create a new RC I would prefer to ship RC0 and just backport
> the patch to conda.
>
> Thanks,
> Raúl
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > kou
> >
> > In <cad1rbrrnu1d0xs5-xmt+ed4jujpykfp5r53tameftbmah5z...@mail.gmail.com>
> >   "[VOTE] Release Apache Arrow 18.0.0 - RC0" on Fri, 18 Oct 2024
> 12:25:08 +0200,
> >   Raúl Cumplido <rau...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose the following release candidate (RC0) of Apache
> > > Arrow version 18.0.0. This is a release consisting of 327
> > > resolved GitHub issues[1].
> > >
> > > This release candidate is based on commit:
> > > 9105a4109a80a1c01eabb24ee4b9f7c94ee942cb [2]
> > >
> > > The source release rc0 is hosted at [3].
> > > The binary artifacts are hosted at [4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11].
> > > The changelog is located at [12].
> > >
> > > Please download, verify checksums and signatures, run the unit tests,
> > > and vote on the release. See [13] for how to validate a release
> candidate.
> > >
> > > See also a verification result on GitHub pull request [14].
> > >
> > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 Release this as Apache Arrow 18.0.0
> > > [ ] +0
> > > [ ] -1 Do not release this as Apache Arrow 18.0.0 because...
> > >
> > > [1]:
> https://github.com/apache/arrow/issues?q=is%3Aissue+milestone%3A18.0.0+is%3Aclosed
> > > [2]:
> https://github.com/apache/arrow/tree/9105a4109a80a1c01eabb24ee4b9f7c94ee942cb
> > > [3]:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/arrow/apache-arrow-18.0.0-rc0
> > > [4]: https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/arrow/almalinux-rc/
> > > [5]: https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/arrow/amazon-linux-rc/
> > > [6]: https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/arrow/centos-rc/
> > > [7]: https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/arrow/debian-rc/
> > > [8]: https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/arrow/java-rc/18.0.0-rc0
> > > [9]: https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/arrow/nuget-rc/18.0.0-rc0
> > > [10]: https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/arrow/python-rc/18.0.0-rc0
> > > [11]: https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/arrow/ubuntu-rc/
> > > [12]:
> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/9105a4109a80a1c01eabb24ee4b9f7c94ee942cb/CHANGELOG.md
> > > [13]:
> https://arrow.apache.org/docs/developers/release_verification.html
> > > [14]: https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/44440
>

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