Cool :)

On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 10:33 AM Elad Kalif <elad...@apache.org> wrote:

> I started a lazy consensus
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/5b3w2ofb2hjqcszkd21sg815rc0yxovt
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 10:36 AM Avi <a...@astronomer.io.invalid> wrote:
>
> > +1, with this it will make it easier to adopt sqlalchemy 2.x
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 1:03 PM Wei Lee <weilee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > +1, I even thought we had already done it 🤔
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Wei
> > >
> > > > On Jun 23, 2025, at 1:50 PM, Amogh Desai <amoghdesai....@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 to this.
> > > >
> > > > Since the tentative date for PY 3.9 deprecation is nearing (Oct
> 2025),
> > > > since we support
> > > > 3.10 (relatively easier migration), I do not see why we should delay
> > the
> > > > support here.
> > > >
> > > > Maintaining older versions is a nightmare in itself and becomes even
> > more
> > > > so with
> > > > the combinations we have in Airflow. Waiting till the last day could
> > also
> > > > lead to surprises
> > > > which might give us a hard time.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks & Regards,
> > > > Amogh Desai
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 3:20 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> +1. We have more and more problems because some of our dependencies
> > are
> > > >> already dropping support for 3.9 and that complicates dependency
> > > >> management. Also, there a few language features added in 3.10 that
> > could
> > > >> make our code better:
> > > >>
> > > >> * https://peps.python.org/pep-0636/ -> structural pattern
> > > >> matching (match/case)
> > > >> * there are few improvements to typing system that could make our
> > > >> (sometimes complex) type definition simpler
> > > >> https://peps.python.org/pep-0612/ - Parameter Specification
> > Variables,
> > > >> https://peps.python.org/pep-0613/ - explicit type aliases ,
> > > >> https://peps.python.org/pep-0647/ - user defined type guards,
> > > >> https://peps.python.org/pep-0604/ - Allow writing union types as X
> |
> > Y
> > > >> (without from __future__ import annotations and can be used in
> > > isinstance)
> > > >>
> > > >> Also generally speaking migration to Python 3.10 from 3.9 for our
> > users
> > > >> should be mostly a no-op. Generally it should "just work" as there
> > were
> > > >> very little breaking changes. Similarly 3.10 -> 3.11 was easy. 3.11
> ->
> > > 3.12
> > > >> and especially 3.12 -> 3.13 is much more involved, so i'd be
> cautious
> > > here,
> > > >> but 3.9 - 3.10 should be easy for everyone. I think we do not lose
> > much
> > > by
> > > >> switching 3.1 to be 3.10+ only and the sooner we do it, the less we
> > > will be
> > > >> dragged down by 3.9.
> > > >>
> > > >> J.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 11:14 AM Pavankumar Gopidesu <
> > > >> gopidesupa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks elad, yes agree on this to start working on to drop as only
> > few
> > > >>> months left to Python 3.9 EOL.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +1
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>> Pavan
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 10:03 AM Elad Kalif <elad...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi everyone,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I'd like to propose starting dropping support for Python 3.9. Our
> > > >> policy
> > > >>> (
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/airflow?tab=readme-ov-file#support-for-python-and-kubernetes-versions
> > > >>>> )
> > > >>>> allows this (best effort item). At least for providers, it becomes
> > > time
> > > >>>> consuming to find workarounds and fixes specifically for Python
> 3.9
> > > and
> > > >>> at
> > > >>>> the same time the extra effort invested in it prevents delivering
> > > >>>> capabilities that users need. Example:
> > > >>>> https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/51756
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I don't think we should wait until the exact day of EOL for Python
> > > 3.9,
> > > >>> we
> > > >>>> are close enough and we should begin dropping support gradually.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> WDYT?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
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