Resending to devlist again with a link to the picture instead of the image (our mailing list rejected the message as too big).
Here is the picture https://pasteboard.co/c23tOnopp8l9.png BTW. I am going for two weeks on vacation - still today I might be reachable, but as of Monday I somewhere in an RV in the middle of wild Eeast Canada, without the intention of checking my github or slack or email messages :) On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 11:58 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I would like to share a short information about a little informal workshop > we held at Toronto with a number of folks who were here due to the Airflow > Summit. > > First of all - explanation why I am writing about it only now and that it > has not been public/ on the devlist so far and the workshops was > invite-only. > > The idea I had about it was rather an "ad-hoc" one and I had hard time to > organise it (together with Julien) over the last few weeks. Adding devlist > discussion to the list would be complicating things a lot and I was afraid > people might get FOMO syndrome (needlessly). > > Also - I am not really used to organising things like this - this was WAAY > outside of my comfort zone and I had a really hard time mentally to keep > myself "in a grip" so to speak, so adding devlist discussion would be a > huge burden for me personally. > > I hope one of the results of this meeting will be that we will organize > such meetings more often/maybe via conference calls and in more 'open' > fashion. I look forward to that - I hope some people got inspired to lead > that part. > > The idea of meeting came from my discussion with Julien Le Dem - > OpenLineage creator based on some ideas in the talk of his from the summit > https://airflowsummit.org/sessions/2023/nurturing-open-source-community/. > We had been discussing the idea over the last few weeks and iterated on it > together. > > I invited PMC members, some of the representatives of the stakeholders, > a few people from Wealthsimple (my customer) who kindly agreed to host the > meeting at their offices and few other people who I thought might be good > to have. The idea of mine heavily evolved during the workshop and we did > quite a different thing that I planned originally, but well, that was also > part of the plan - to propose something and let it form itself by having > smart and passionate and vested people around who would collectively guide > where the discussions will lead us to. > > We ended up with ~20 people. And we finally split into three groups. I > will not go into details - but we have not made any decisions of course, > and other than discussion itself you have not missed being part of what's > going to happen next. > > All of the things we discussed will have to find its way to the devlist > and I hope they will - but I will leave it up to the people who are > passionate about it and would like to follow up on those subjects > individually. > > Broadly speaking those were the three things that appeared to be the most > important topics: > > 1) We feel the need of improving product management of Airflow - in the > sense that we need to have Product Management-focused people to help our > community to better organise planning, releases and "roadmap"/direction. > > 2) We feel the need to build robust performance and benchmarking solutions > for Airflow. It seems that all big vendors - Google, Astronomer, Amazon > feel the same need and are committed to contribute a lot to make it a > reality. > > 3) We feel the need for airflow to be more and more relevant in the future > of data, to expand the current lineage information and add more semantic > schema to the kinds of data that's being processed by and we feel that > Airflow is a perfect platform to implement some open standards there. > > Those are broad "big" subjects we discussed and I am super excited and > thrilled on what this might bring in the future. > > Once again - great thanks to Wealthsimple - especially Mandy Gu who was an > absolutely fantastic host and Mark Cheng who helped us with making the > workshop run smoothly. Mark came to the office early especiallybfor is and > make us all feel welcome and taken care of - big thanks for that :). And > thanks to Diederik van Liere for being the "sponsor" of that work and a > very active participant in the discussions. > > I am really thankful for all the help and openness and responsiveness of > Wealthsimple. I think Wealthsimple is a great community member and I look > forward to the future collaboration :). > > Thanks to Julien who helped me with the workahop (and helped me to get > through some difficult times where I had serious doubts if this whole > thing makes sense at all). > > And special thanks to Rich Bowen - the board director of the Apache > Software Foundation and VP conferencing there - he provided super valuable > input from the Foundation history and present that I think helped to > streamline the Product discussion in the right direction. > > See the picture on how we looked after the workshops. Looks like we all > survived :) . > > I barely, but I did :). > > J. >