Resending to devlist again with a link to the picture instead of the image
(our mailing list rejected the message as too big).

Here is the picture https://pasteboard.co/c23tOnopp8l9.png

BTW. I am going for two weeks on vacation - still today I might be
reachable, but as of Monday I somewhere in an RV in the middle of wild
Eeast Canada, without the intention of checking my github or slack or email
messages :)


On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 11:58 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I would like to share a short information about a little informal workshop
> we held at Toronto with a number of folks who were here due to the Airflow
> Summit.
>
> First of all - explanation why I am writing about it only now and that it
> has not been public/ on the devlist so far and the workshops was
> invite-only.
>
> The idea I had about it was rather an "ad-hoc" one and I had hard time to
> organise it (together with Julien) over the last few weeks. Adding devlist
> discussion to the list would be complicating things a lot and I was afraid
> people might get FOMO syndrome (needlessly).
>
> Also - I am not really used to organising things like this - this was WAAY
> outside of my comfort zone and I had a really hard time mentally to keep
> myself "in a grip" so to speak, so adding devlist discussion would be a
> huge burden for me personally.
>
> I hope one of the results of this meeting will be that we will organize
> such meetings more often/maybe via conference calls and in more 'open'
> fashion. I look forward to that - I hope some people got inspired to lead
> that part.
>
> The idea of meeting came from my discussion with Julien Le Dem -
> OpenLineage creator based on some ideas in the talk of his from the summit
> https://airflowsummit.org/sessions/2023/nurturing-open-source-community/.
> We had been discussing the idea over the last few weeks and iterated on it
> together.
>
> I invited PMC members, some of the representatives of the stakeholders,
> a few people from Wealthsimple (my customer) who kindly agreed to host the
> meeting at their offices and few other people who I thought might be good
> to have. The idea of mine heavily evolved during the workshop and we did
> quite a different thing that I planned originally, but well, that was also
> part of the plan - to propose something and let it form itself by having
> smart and passionate and vested people around who would collectively guide
> where the discussions will lead us to.
>
> We ended up with ~20 people. And we finally split into three groups. I
> will not go into details - but we have not made any decisions of course,
> and other than discussion itself you have not missed being part of what's
> going to happen next.
>
> All of the things we discussed will have to find its way to the devlist
> and I hope they will - but I will leave it up to the people who are
> passionate about it and would like to follow up on those subjects
> individually.
>
> Broadly speaking those were the three things that appeared to be the most
> important topics:
>
> 1) We feel the need of improving product management of Airflow - in the
> sense that we need to have Product Management-focused people to help our
> community to better organise planning, releases and "roadmap"/direction.
>
> 2) We feel the need to build robust performance and benchmarking solutions
> for Airflow. It seems that all big vendors - Google, Astronomer, Amazon
> feel the same need and are committed to contribute a lot to make it a
> reality.
>
> 3) We feel the need for airflow to be more and more relevant in the future
> of data, to expand the current lineage information and add more semantic
> schema to the kinds of data that's being processed by and we feel that
> Airflow is a perfect platform to implement some open standards there.
>
> Those are broad "big" subjects we discussed and I am super excited and
> thrilled on what this might bring in the future.
>
> Once again - great thanks to Wealthsimple - especially Mandy Gu who was an
> absolutely fantastic host and Mark Cheng who helped us with making the
> workshop run smoothly. Mark came to the office early especiallybfor is and
> make us all feel welcome and taken care of - big thanks for that :). And
> thanks to Diederik van Liere for being the "sponsor" of that work and a
> very active participant in the discussions.
>
> I am really thankful for all the help and openness and responsiveness of
> Wealthsimple. I think Wealthsimple is a great community member and I look
> forward to the future collaboration :).
>
> Thanks to Julien who helped me with the workahop (and helped me to get
> through some difficult times  where I had serious doubts if this whole
> thing makes sense at all).
>
> And special thanks to Rich Bowen - the board director of the Apache
> Software Foundation and VP conferencing there - he provided super valuable
> input from the Foundation history and present  that I think helped to
> streamline the Product discussion in the right direction.
>
> See the picture on how we looked after the workshops. Looks like we all
> survived :) .
>
> I barely, but I did :).
>
> J.
>

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