I want to underline how insane this is: "...the groups which looked at [the web_view] proposal [...] largely viewed it favourably, a promising way of allow C++ applications to do things like graphical output without having to standardize a graphics API ourselves, as previously attempted."
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I would never have guessed that any committee would have thought the failure of the graphics API proposal was that it didn't go far enough. I don't think there could be a brighter possible neon sign that library integration and ecosystem ergonomics are so horrendous that one of the proposed remedies for "it's hard to integrate [skia,cairo,opengl] with my project" is "let's effectively include an existing operating system in the standard library". I should also mention that as a non-majority browser engine developer, this is an existential threat to Mozilla, and in turn, the web. What can I do to help keep things on the tracks here? On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 10:42 AM Botond Ballo <bba...@mozilla.com> wrote: > Hi folks! > > If you're interested in some more details about what happened at last > week's meeting, my blog post about it is now available (also on > Planet): > > > https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2019/07/26/trip-report-c-standards-meeting-in-cologne-july-2019/ > > Cheers, > Botond > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:25 AM Botond Ballo <bba...@mozilla.com> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone! > > > > The next meeting of the C++ Standards Committee (WG21) will be July > > 15-20 in Cologne, Germany. > > > > (Apologies for not sending this announcement sooner!) > > > > This is a particularly important meeting because the committee aims to > > publish the C++20 Committee Draft, a feature-complete draft of C++20 > > that will be sent out for balloting and comment from national > > standards bodies, at the end of this meeting. C++20 is probably going > > to be the language's largest release since C++11, containing an > > extensive lineup of significant new features (Concepts, Modules, > > Coroutines, Contracts, Ranges, and default comparisons (<=>), among > > others). Modules has just merged into the working draft at the last > > meeting, and continues to be under active discussion due to tooling > > impacts. Contracts are at risk of being pulled due to controversy. > > Even for uncontroversial features, technical issues that we can't fix > > in time are sometimes discovered and result in the feature being > > bumped to the next release. All in all, this is going to be a busy and > > eventful meeting. > > > > If you're curious about the state of C++ standardization, I encourage > > you to check out my blog posts where I summarize each meeting in > > detail (most recent one here [1]), and the list of proposals being > > considered by the committee (new ones since the last meeting can be > > found here [2] and here [3]). > > > > I will be attending this meeting, likely splitting my time between the > > Evolution Working Group (where new language features are discussed at > > the design level) and interesting Study Groups such as SG7 > > (Reflection) and SG15 (Tooling). As always, if there's anything you'd > > like me to find out for you at the meeting, or any feedback you'd like > > me to communicate, please let me know! > > > > Finally, I encourage you to reach out to me if you're thinking of > > submitting a proposal to the committee. I'm always happy to help with > > formulating and, if necessary, presenting a proposal. > > > > Cheers, > > Botond > > > > [1] > https://botondballo.wordpress.com/2019/03/20/trip-report-c-standards-meeting-in-kona-february-2019/ > > [2] > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2019/#mailing2019-03 > > [3] > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2019/#mailing2019-06 > _______________________________________________ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform > _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
