On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 10:08:27 AM UTC-4, William Lachance wrote: > On 2019-04-09 11:00 a.m., Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: > > On 5/04/19 15:35,jma...@mozilla.com wrote: > >> Currently linux32 makes up about .77% of our total users. This is > >> still 1M+ users on any given week. > > I asked jmaher what percentage of our Linux users this is. It's 21%. > > This doesn't seem small. > > > > On top of that, we know that not all distros have telemetry enabled and > > so we won't be counting those either (Debian is the largest). > > > > I don't know how many users we need to keep supporting a platform, but > > this seems like quite a few people to throw under the bus. > > I'm not sure where :jmaher got his original figure, but I just did up a > crude analysis counting the number of clients_daily entries on Linux > day-by-day over the past year reporting x86 (32-bit) vs. x86-64 (64-bit): > > https://sql.telemetry.mozilla.org/queries/62267 > > The 21% number looks like it was accurate about a year ago. At this > point, we're hovering around 15% of reported usage day-to-day. > > Obviously this isn't a complete analysis and doesn't validate that each > client ping represents a real user (or the distinction between e.g. a > ping representing a user who uses Firefox once a week vs. once a day), > but it does suggest (as intuition would tell us) that linux32 is of > diminishing interest. If you want a more scientific answer here, I'd > recommend engaging Firefox data science: > > https://mana.mozilla.org/wiki/display/PM/Firefox+Data+Science#FirefoxDataScience-initiatingaproject > > Will
Thanks everyone for your responses, It sounds like making a decision to deprecate linux32 builds and tests need to happen at the same time and that decision will need to come from a variety of people who are higher up in the decision making process of the Firefox products. Until we get that, I propose when trunk switches to Firefox 69 (May 13th - and 68 is on track to be the new ESR), we make these changes on trunk for linux32: * demote the builds/tests to tier-2 (only on mozilla-central/try) * stop building/testing linux32-debug (we don't ship it and it hasn't found any unique regressions resulting in a product fix in 9+ months of data I have available) * reduce the tests we run to be web-platform-tests; this ensures we maintain compatibility with web standards. Based on all the feedback on this thread, I don't see any concerns with this path forward. _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
