On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 3:28:07 PM UTC+12, Randell Jesup wrote:
> >On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Jet Villegas <jville...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What do we expect to break?
> >
> >
> >I can see that video quality auto adjusment which is based on these APIs
> >will become malfunction. But, I don't know is this a real use case that a
> >website implement video quality adjusment based on these APIs.
> 
> This will break a number of our internal mochitests.  I'm not sure
> without some checking if the standardized properties can replace them (I
> think the answer is no in some cases).  We could put them behind a pref
> for testing use.
> 
> >
> >> Who's out there using these APIs now?
> >>
> >
> 
> I do believe a number of webrtc services may use these; it's hard to be
> sure because many of them are not easily findable by searching github
> or search engines.
> 
> >There are some addons using these APIs to report media statistics. For our
> >internal use, there are only some test code using them. And I think the
> >VideoPlaybackQuality can be used to replace them since it provides a
> >similar feature.
> 
> In webrtc and related use, quality is not what these measure; we want to
> know if frames have arrived or been painted (generally using
> mozPaintedFrames).  There is one test using mozParsedFrames.
> 
> Before landing any deprecation warnings, you should check with the
> media/webrtc teams, and we may want to check how one or two external
> users are using it.
> 
> -- 
> Randell Jesup, Mozilla Corp
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I added these stats originally, and they are now mostly superseded by the stats 
provided by VideoPlaybackQuality. So I support their removal (in fact I 
suggested to Tim that he remove them).

Adding telemetry to learn how often these stats are used in the wild seems like 
a good idea. I'd be surprised if these are still used, but I'm happy to be 
proved wrong!

Randall: doesn't VideoPlaybackQuality support the use cases you're concerned 
about?



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