On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:31:50 PM UTC-4, ajo...@mozilla.com wrote: > Supporting two separate audio backends in Linux is duplicated effort.
Then support, ONE.. ALSA. > The most problematic backend across all platforms is ALSA. It is also missing > full duplex support. Don't disagree... BUT... I use ALSA features that are a must... several features of ALSA actually eliminate PHYSICAL HARDWARE in my use.. >We are intending to add multichannel (5.1) Why does a BROWSER need 5.1 or x.y sound??? Its a browser!!! If you need that kind of audio playback, then the browser regardless of which one is NOT the software to use! XBMC, OpenElec or various other media playback setups would be a much better solution than a browser. > Just to be clear, I’m proposing we stop spending time on ALSA so we can spend > that time on adding 5.1 >audio support to our PulseAudio backend. x.y audio is the basis factor to determine if ALSA is continued??? Again, WHY do you need x.y audio in a BROWSER???? There is suitable video/audio players for that, and a browser is not it! I don't use pulseaudio... one of the first things I do on new installs and for the images I use ENTERPRISE WIDE is to remove pulseaudio... until recently guess what else was removed?? FIREFOX! We only added it to kill a support nightmare with Konqueror since its render engine doesn't keep up... And with this decision, I am again, will be REMOVING FIREFOX from our image and demoviting from our repo mirrors.... My entrerpise is a large level install. I don't speak for them publically so I can't name them or elaborate, but suffice it to say, thats a lot of users that won't be using firefox in the near future, and its a lot grief for me to purge it away. Why don't I use pulseaudio?? As I stated I use ALSA plugins which are required to do my daily tasks, PA interferes with those.. plus its just plain buggy.. pops, crackles, and glitches in audio from any software that plays audio... ALSA just works, never had an issue with it. NEVER in 20+ years of Linux use. The biggest hurdle is the documentation for its features...but that applies to a lot of software. Additionally with systemd's arrival from the same author that just enforces why I don't use pulseaudio! Not interested in that thing either! So lets be clear... If --enable-alsa and that will allow distros to put back, AND mozillas future updates to go down the PA route don't break adding ALSA back then I will get *buntu/Debian enforce that in their bulds and remove your spying telemetry too. (Which definitely means we need to be looking at our firewall logs to ensure this gets turned off!) All this blow up to have x.y audio in a browser??? Really??? _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
