Le mercredi 15 mars 2017 02:24:57 UTC+1, qiana...@gmail.com a écrit : > Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2017 00:11:24 UTC+1 schrieb gfra...@gmail.com: > > So this is were this idea started! > > Great job guys, well, at least firefox is now unusable on Puppy Linux and > > low profile OSS. > > yes, indeed: :( > > - A developer who don't like work much on ALSA and chose the easy way! > (Hey, you are working for one of the famoust browsers in the world! You have > no ressources for this???) > > - the decision to make a 5.1, DRM, AmazonPrime, commercial video on > demand-multimediacenter compatible Multimediacenter as a browser > > - not recognizing how much Linux-Distros, projects and users prefer ALSA > without Pulseaudio for several reasoons! > > - ignoring that ALSA is the soundbase in every Linux since more than 10y > and PA is just a sound-server! > > - not informing the community to have this design-break early, so that they > can decide and react and don't have distros/systems with broken sound with > one ff-update in browser and a lot of work too! > > - basing on telemetry that is sayin`nothing!!! > most users i know don't use telemetry in their browsers! > Pure-ALSA-users are knowing as people who love FREEDOM much! ;-) > > And at the end some devs that explain that they are not uptodate with > Linux-Sound-base!??? > > Hey c'mon: this is really how you decided this? > > i can't believe. > > Rollback to ALSA as the only main soundriver and soundsystem in Linux, maybe > make Jack optional running too (it has a lot of potential) and maybe support > pulseaudio too - but please let the people choose!!! > > I read in your group here that it was implemented before, that firefox DONT > require PA as a hard dependency and that ff was using ALSA if PA was not > found on system! > > THIS could be the best SOULution with your next build of FF! > > And a big note in www that you support ALSA again! > > It's no option to say that the people can recompile their alsa-based ff by > theirself! I tried this one night with Linux Mint 17.3 and gcc 4.9 - but it > was a mess! A lot of people are running away from ff now after years. > > It happens right now! > > maybe this are some hundreds or thousands - but hey: it does matter how you > treat your users! > > So all i want is constractive and to motivate you: > > Please be patient! > > it's no fun for many people to have breaking sound with Linux Firefox, > because of an update and without a note before. > > Respect this please. > > If you need more people working on ALSA with Firefox - get them on board! > > You are Mozilla! > > And hey: Where is the problem? firefox was building with ALSA for many years > and it don't has to be so much work to implement 5.1 and fullduplex (use dmix > or other options!) and keep it rolling. > > If you want to see Firefox 52 working on our little A/V-Distro - that is > stable and just released in January and basing on Ubuntu 14.04, Linux Mint > 17.3 and KXStudio - as a typical scene what happens on a typical ALSA-based > Linux system that prefers to have FF as the default browser! > > http://mayastudio.tumblr.com/64bit > > http://qianastudio.tumblr.com > > That we now have to rebuild again with maybe another browser is just one > example for what can happen, if you don't communicate breaks like this with > the Linux Community. > > So i hope you will find a way and thinking about the fact, that there are > many advanced Linux-users outside (without telemetry) that prefers ALSA > without PA and that they love Firefox (too). > > Maybe the (sometimes harsh) feedback from your bugzilla will open your eyes!? > ;-) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661 > > It's emotional. This is a fact (too). > > but a problem to solve also... > > If you just keep on stopping supporting ALSA than it has to be so. > > There are alternative browsers. > > But i can't understand: BECAUSE Pulseaudio is setting upon ALSA and works NOT > without ALSA! So ALSA is the (kernel-)sounddriver in every Linux-System and > Pulseaudio just a server as a routing-backend! > > If the soundcard is not configured right and recognized by kernel and it's > modules- than the soundcard DONT works with PA too! > > So you just have to arrange with ALSA and maybe it helps you, if you contact > some devs there!??: > > Maybe they could help you same way like PA-devs do!?? > > I don't know - but it could be an option!# > > best regards, > > chalee, Phil and kAte > > http://alsa.opensrc.org/
Could not agree more. I WONT use pulseaudio. So if firefox will, I wont use it, despite all its qualities. Open your eyes. Don't let me use Chromium. Regards _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
