> Generally speaking, Firefox's stability has not been good for me for 2-3
months. I'd like to file a bug, > but I've already used up my quota of
unactionable bugs, and if I dug into all of my idiosyncratic
> issues I'd never get any work done. I seem to do things differently, in
some problematic way. I wish I > could get more use out of the profiler &
cleopatra, but when I'm having issues it often can't manage
> to load that page successfully. Plus, for some reason I am mentally
incapable of getting useful
> (actionable) data out of that UI (or the necessary data isn't there? not
sure.) PEBKAC, I'm sure.

(Sorry for the dupe, sfink, since the first version only went to you)

This kind of sentiment concerns me a bit. Oftentimes, people will report
odd or undesirable behaviour from Firefox and we have to do painstaking
(and sometimes lossy) diagnosis over Bugzilla. When it's somebody within
the organization, I really don't think there's an excuse for us not finding
some kind of explanation for what's going in a situation like this - like,
we have (sorta[1]) access to the machine. I feel like that should be a
golden opportunity.

If we can't keep people in the org satisfied with the performance and
stability of Firefox, then I think that's a problem.

sfink - it's not clear to me yet what exact issues you've been experiencing
for the past 2-3 months, but I can try to help you dig into it, bit by bit
- I will also happily try to extract useful information from any Profiles
you're able to gather (the fact that you sometimes have difficulty
gathering them is concerning). Feel free to reach out to me on IRC.

[1]: Since I believe sfink is remote, but in the Bay Area.


On 17 April 2016 at 13:55, Steve Fink <sf...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> That's a very good point about keeping the treeherder page open eating
> resources. I guess I've found that (1) my personal try push page takes
> much, much longer to get overloaded than eg the inbound page (or worse, the
> *full* try page); and (2) Firefox is so flaky on me for other reasons that
> I end up having to restart it fairly often anyway. (And no, it's not
> because of that page -- half the time I need to restart, that tab isn't
> even loaded.)
>
> Generally speaking, Firefox's stability has not been good for me for 2-3
> months. I'd like to file a bug, but I've already used up my quota of
> unactionable bugs, and if I dug into all of my idiosyncratic issues I'd
> never get any work done. I seem to do things differently, in some
> problematic way. I wish I could get more use out of the profiler &
> cleopatra, but when I'm having issues it often can't manage to load that
> page successfully. Plus, for some reason I am mentally incapable of getting
> useful (actionable) data out of that UI (or the necessary data isn't there?
> not sure.) PEBKAC, I'm sure.
>
> On 04/16/2016 08:32 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote:
>
>> I use T-pushes on try a lot, where I build on all platforms (debug and
>> opt) but run tests only on one platform (debug and opt), usually
>> Linux64. I.e.: "try: -b do -p all -u none[x64] -t none[x64]".
>>
> I think you meant "try: -b do -p all -u all[x64] -t all[x64]".
>
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