I agree HTTPS makes information safer and protects it¹s integrity, making
it (once again) safer.
However;
1) are the benefits worth the millions of man-hours, and countless dollars
this will cost?
2) why is Mozilla suddenly everyone¹s nanny?

- Shawn


On 5/1/15, 2:44 PM, "Joseph Lorenzo Hall" <j...@cdt.org> wrote:

>On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Patrick McManus <pmcma...@mozilla.com>
>wrote:
>> It is afterall likely stored in cleartext on each computer. This is an
>> important distinction no matter the nature of the content because
>>Firefox,
>> as the User's Agent, has a strong interest in the user seeing the
>>content
>> she asked for and protecting her confidentiality (as best as is
>>possible)
>> while doing the asking.Those are properties transport security gives
>>you.
>> Sadly, both of those fundamental properties of transport are routinely
>> broken to the user's detriment, when http:// is used.
>
>Yes, I'll add something Patrick knows very well, but just to hammer it
>home: HTTPS as transport protection isn't just about confidentiality
>but integrity of the transport.
>
>So, even if those of you out there are saying "The web doesn't have
>much private stuff! jeez!" the web sure has a lot of stuff that is
>highly dynamic with javascript and other active content. That stuff
>needs be protected in transit lest the Great Cannon or any number of
>user-hostile crap on the net start owning your UAs, even if you don't
>think the content need be private.
>
>best, Joe
>
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