On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Christopher Karlof <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Nicholas Alexander <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Christopher Karlof <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Ryan Feeley <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> John and I were recently deeply moved by Luke W’s long form article on
>>>> showing passwords by default.
>>>>
>>>
>> I read this a while back and found it compelling.
>>
>>
>>>> http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?1941
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Cool article.
>>>
>>> Thoughts:
>>>
>>> 1) Luke seems focused on Mobile in that article. On Mobile, users have
>>> different security/trust expectations than on Desktop.
>>> 2) FWIW, I tried show people’s password by default on Desktop in my
>>> password manager project ~2010 (for the same reasons Luke discusses) and
>>> lots of people freaked out. We started hiding it by default instead.
>>>
>>
>> Who freaked out?  This sounds like pre-Mozilla, but was it
>> developers/managers/etc, or was it user?
>>
>>
> It was non-Mozilla. We received a lot of support requests that suggested
> what we were doing were doing was wrong. I don't know if it necessarily is,
> but I will admit is jarring to see your password appear in the clear when
> you've had 10+ years of conditioning that it always appears as ***** (on
> the Web) or not all at (in *nix).
>

> In Jack’s tests <http://passwordmasking.com>, when passwords were
displayed as clear text by default in an e-commerce form, 60% of people
surveyed said they became suspicious of the site, while only 45% identified
not masking the password as a usability benefit. In contrast, when a simple
checkbox was added that indicated a Show Password setting was on, 100% of
participants noticed the checkbox and interpreted the clear text password
as a feature.

The results from Jack show that details matter a great deal, so it may not
be entirely the same situation. We could present a few different views of
the "checkbox" to see how it affects drop-offs.

-Zach
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