>>>>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 07:17:05 +0000, "Jonathan Dowland" <j...@debian.org>
>>>>> said:
> On Wed Feb 5, 2025 at 7:33 AM GMT, Thomas Lange wrote:
>> When introducing a new software for the wiki, start with the content
>> from scratch. Do not try to migrate all pages to the a wiki and then
>> cleanup pages.
> I have a lot of sympathy for this position (we have pages in the current
> wiki which are unmodified from the predecessor kwiki in 2005) but in
> practise I think this wouldn't work. We'd end up with two wikis at the
> same time.
Why do we end up with two wikis? After some time for the migration, we
would delete the old wiki. The problem in Debian is that we are not
brave enough to remove old content but want to keep things forever.
> I think instead we should think of ways to ensure that stale content
> doesn't detract from the good stuff.
The stale (and outdated) content will always detract unless you remove it.
> Good reporting on interlinking,
> finding orphan pages, web analytics on popularity, etc. may help.
Sure this may help, but my experience with the web pages is, that no one
will do this. I was the only one that started a cleanup after many, many
years and I found so much outdated and obsolete content. We even
tagged some documentation as stale and outdated, but still kept it for
many years.
The wiki is even bigger and I don't see that there will be many people
that will spend so much time in improving the wiki content esp. if
that means to spend time on old content, orphan pages, etc.
I myself have stopped working on the wiki, because I would get
overloaded and in a bad mood because for me the wiki in its current
state is a loosing game.
I'm happy to share my experience with the web pages in a BoF during
DebConf and you can watch my talk from last year about this.
https://berlin2024.mini.debconf.org/talks/19-past-changes-and-future-plans-for-the-debian-web-pages/
--
best regards Thomas
