Russ Allbery dijo [Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 01:38:59PM -0700]: > Hi all, > > Moving this into a separate thread from all the discussion for a bit more > visibility. > > Thank you for all the discussion over the past couple of days about my > proposal and about possible rewordings to point 5 of the Social Contract. > The short summary is that, after considering that feedback, I'm going to > stick with the current wording for proposal E for this vote.
Hi Russ, For those not reading debian-private, I was on [VAC] for slightly over a week, as I went to a conference in Cyprus, and... well, I was not able to keep my mind online during said period. I haven't read the last ~50 messages on debian-vote, so part of what I'm commenting might already have been discussed. > I see a clear desire to reword point 5 of the Social Contract to get rid > of some obsolete language and possibly tighten and clarify it, but I also > think it's somewhat orthogonal to the current GR. Therefore, I'm going to > stick, for this GR, with making what I think is the minimal change > required to make proposal A clearly consistent with the Social Contract, > and then will look at starting a separate GR to update SC point 5 based on > the outcome of that vote. > (...) Yes. I completely agree with your rationale here. Particularly the point about "non-free-firmware installer" and "SC#5 updating/rewording" being almost-orthogonal. And also about the need for more time than the tail of an ongoing GR for thinking and discussing foundation-document-altering GRs. Now, my thinking wandered off to the following timeline: almost-now o Voting is open with the A,B,C,D,E option set. | We know the Secretary has warned that some options | winning might trigger his obligation to mark the | vote as invalid. | weeks-from- o Vote concludes. Option A wins. The Secretary rules now | the vote invalid. | few-months- o GR for changing SC#5 is called, discussed, voted. future | There is no longer a SC conflict between | 2022/vote_003 and SC#5. | What would follow from here? Would the SC change automatically enable the Secretary to reinstate the winning option A for 2022/vote_003? Or are such rulings made (as would make sense!) for the "current reality"? Would running the same vote again be in place? Sorry for the hypothesizing, but I think it's important to udnerstand where we are and where would this lead us to.