Ian Jackson:
This argument is not really  about service startup, though.  It's
> about systemd's graphical console management, its replacements for
> syslog, cron, ntpd, acpid, etc etc etc.

Marco d'Itri:
Kernel developers have been  explaining for years that we need a user
> space console to properly support things that are not well supported
> now, and I do not see anybody else writing one...

... which is the result if one has one's eyes tightly shut. User space replacements for Linux and BSD kernel virtual terminals have already existed, and been written, for years. There's a whole non-Anglophone section of the planet that has been relying upon things like zhcon (https://packages.debian.org/jessie/zhcon), a userspace virtual teminal that has been around since 2002, for years. fbterm (https://packages.debian.org/jessie/fbterm), another userspace virtual terminal, has been around since 2008. Ali Gholami Rudi's fbpad (http://repo.or.cz/w/fbpad.git) has been around since 2009. I myself wrote a white paper on the subject in 2006 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/Proposals/linux-console-daemon.html) thinking about such things as security partitioning, allowing multiple simultaneous renderers, and retaining the functionality of screen readers like BrlTTY (https://packages.debian.org/jessie/brltty). I ended up implementing an entire application-mode console subsystem for a non-Linux operating system first.


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