Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 07:26:03PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > So if the GR contained: "2. Responsibility for the previous events is > > shared." then that is an end to it, in your opinion? > > Sure, this is all i am asking. Not sure why everyone translates this to > "i won"t be satisfied if i don't get my way", which is more what the > other side has been showing, but then as i said, people judge me not on > what i say, but on what they believe i say.
I based everything in my proposal on things from the messages about this dispute from various people, as far as I could. Even things like the apology, which quickly drew one objection, arose from one of your requests: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So, no, that isn't all you are asking. Please get straight with yourself before complaining that others are getting confused. > [...] Well, just look at [...], or [...] on irc [...] > and [...] used to bash me [...] and [...] I'm aware of most of that, so why keep repeating it? It's relevant to how we got here, but is it relevant to what happens now? Even if it is, I feel there's no need to detail it yet, so I'm unlikely to reply to further emails containing detailed accusations. [...] > Indeed, and that is exactly the main reproach i have against this whole > mess. If everyone involved in it had been equally suspended, i would be > happy. I am not the sole responsible for this mess, why should i be the > only punished ? And a resolution which keeps this strong unfairness > exhibits the same problem as the previous resolutions. Well, I've done what I said I would. I proposed a GR which essentially replaces the DAM suspension with something that actually acts against the problem of misbehaviour on the debian lists. That's already a pretty difficult sell: see how few seconds it has so far? I'm not going to make it even harder by trying to give any less-frequent offenders the same punishment. To be honest, I think this has a snowflake's chance in hell now and the project will be lucky if this passes before it's irrelevant. Discussions continue about the best way to stop list abuse in general and I will second any human GR about it when the time comes. Hope that explains, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
