On 2024-07-18 at 13:50, Celejar wrote:

> Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

>> This is not the place for debugging Sid, I'm afraid, there are too
>> few
> 
> It's not? Where, then, is the place for debugging Sid?

I'm no longer anything *close* to an expert in this area (having not run
sid myself in well over a decade), but my understanding is: debugging
sid is done in the BTS, collaboratively among Debian developers and that
subset of non-DD users who run sid, and preferably involves those users
investigating causes and filing bug reports with the results of those
investigations.

By taking on yourself the risk and burden of running sid, you are
volunteering to be one of those who helps notice issues before they
reach testing, and report those issues so that the machinery of the
archive can stop the package versions which those issues from migrating
to testing. Ideally, you are also volunteering to be one of those who
helps the package maintainers track down and fix the issues.

-- And, by doing that, you are volunteering to help protect those who do
*not* run sid from having to encounter those issues. It's an admirable
thing to do, really, if you have the time and energy and so forth to
spare for it.

(I just doubt whether a lot of those who currently run sid understand
that that is what they are volunteering for, given the pattern of "what
to update against" recommendations that I remember seeing, which was
rather at odds with what I expected and what I myself would have
recommended.)

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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