On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 05:09:58PM -0000, Curt wrote:
>> On 2024-01-19, David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Fri 19 Jan 2024 at 17:25:10 (+0000), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
>>>> Greg Wooledge <g...@wooledge.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I won, and you lost
>>>>
>>>> There shouldn't be a comma in that sentence, in English. There is in
>>>> the closely related expression "I won, you lost."
>>>
>>> That's rather proscriptive. "I won and you lost." and
>>> "I won, and you lost." are two different sentences.
>>>
>>
>> AFAIK, "you lost" is an independent clause and should be separated from
>> the independent clause that precedes it with a comma before the
>> coordinating conjunction.
>
> Regardless of which grammar rules are right, wrong, or optional, the point
> of this is that parsing natural language text is *stupidly difficult*.
> A person who has to ask why "grep -c" doesn't count the number of commas
> in a single line of text probably isn't able to take on this quest.
>
> Any serious inquiries about natural language parsing should be directed
> to an appropriate artificial intelligence mailing list instead of this one.
>

mr wooledge makes a valid point
if an ignorant person such as myself tries to parse his advice i get
unless you're a super brilliant egghead you shouldn't bother to try

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