On Fri 19 Jan 2024 at 17:25:10 (+0000), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Greg Wooledge <g...@wooledge.org> wrote: > > > I won, and you lost > > There shouldn't be a comma in that sentence, in English. There is in > the closely related expression "I won, you lost."
That's rather proscriptive. "I won and you lost." and "I won, and you lost." are two different sentences. The first is a more neutral statement of fact. The second carries an implication of triumphalism or mockery: many speakers would expect a swoop upwards in intonation on "won", a pause, and a steep drop between "you" and "lost"; kinda like: -⭜ ·¯⭝ if that works in your font. What you lose (sorry) in "I won, you lost." is the anacrusis, the ·, which many would pronounce "ən", as in ənyeeoo. Without it, I'd be inclined to write "I won. You lost." (similar intonation). Disclaimer: my choice of intonation was to illustrate one difference. There are many more ways of saying all of those sentences. Cheers, David.
