On 19/01/2024 23:02, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 19 Jan 2024 at 17:25:10 (+0000), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
Greg Wooledge <g...@wooledge.org> wrote:
I won, and you lost
There shouldn't be a comma in that sentence, in English. There is in
the closely related expression "I won, you lost."
Anything other than this *accurate* statement would have led to a caning
in my grammar school in the late '40s. :-)
Peter HB
That's rather proscriptive. "I won and you lost." and
"I won, and you lost." are two different sentences.
The first is a more neutral statement of fact. The
second carries an implication of triumphalism or
mockery: many speakers would expect a swoop upwards
in intonation on "won", a pause, and a steep drop
between "you" and "lost"; kinda like:
-⭜ ·¯⭝
if that works in your font.
What you lose (sorry) in "I won, you lost." is the
anacrusis, the ·, which many would pronounce "ən",
as in ənyeeoo. Without it, I'd be inclined to write
"I won. You lost." (similar intonation).
Disclaimer: my choice of intonation was to illustrate
one difference. There are many more ways of saying
all of those sentences.
Cheers,
David.
