On 22-03-2021 16:19, deloptes wrote: > Long Wind wrote: > >> term Chinese government is quite misleadingit's used as if it's same as >> other legitimate government, i.e. elected by people its true nature is >> criminal group, as described in bill by US senator > > The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing, but you do not > know what USA is doing. The moment you speak out (Assange, Snowden and many > many others) it is the same as China. > China is bad, but the illusion of democracy we live in here is even worse.
I feel more free in China and Russia than I ever did on multiple trips to the U.S. I've been there half a dozen times to attend and speak at conferences. The last time, I wasn't even going there, just passing through. Waiting at L.A. International for a connecting flight. I was required (there was no option) to provide a retinal scan and undergo fingerprinting. A number of us were subjected to this. Note: we weren't in the country, had no intention of entering the U.S., and were all citizens of other (friendly) countries. This was in the days pre-TSA. I have never been there since, and never will. I check out all flights - I do a substantial amount of travelling - and if there's a U.S. connection involved, I choose a different route. The land of the free? Bullshit! The only ones who sincerely believe that have no point of comparison. I have had in depth discussions on any subject you care to name in both Russia and China. I really can't recall discussing political issues in the U.SW.: in those days I was simply too busy. I have never been subjected to treatment like that in either China or Russia. Cheers! Harry -- `The World is not dangerous because of those who do harm but because of those who look on without doing anything'. -- Albert Einstein