On Mon 10 Apr 2017 at 21:21:00 (+0000), GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Please excuse the intrusion, on another thread Felix Miata says: > Re: Old 32bit PC 650kRam less VidMem 1024x768 will not run on Stretch ok > on Jessie > > > Debian-user is a user support forum, not a developer forum: > > For bug fixes and policy modifications debian-user is the wrong place > > for more than passing discussion. I suggest other avenues: > > Ask me why I think the two threads may be related > > to...@tuxteam.de: > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 04:13:48PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > >> Le primidi 21 germinal, an CCXXV, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > >>> SysV init is broken because it has no process monitoring? No. > >>> Process monitoring isn't in its scope. > > > >> Your other arguments make sense, but sorry, this one does not. The > >> process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system, and > >> adopts all orphan processes. For that reason, any kind of process > >> monitoring, if it needs reliability, must be rooted in PID 1. And in > >> turn, that makes process monitoring in scope for any project that aims > >> to implement a program for PID 1. > > > > Runit works. Think about how :-) > > > > (And yes, double-forking trickery fools it. Don't do that then. Most > > daemons have a command line option for that, and those that dont... > > after all, you have to "fix" daemons to let them participate in systemd's > > socket activation party too, don't you? > > > > regards > > -- t > > The way I see things is that there are long-time server administrators > who refuse to leave their pre-systemd platforms no matter what. > There are "users" on Jessie where Jessie has 4 times the open bug > reports than testing.
This ratio should increase as the release date approaches, because the developers are squashing bugs. That's how ratios work: reducing the denominator increases the ratio. > For a second month under freeze not much > development can take place in unstable, as it is really tomorrow's > testing. What do you mean? Sid (unstable) is always sid. It doesn't suddenly become buster (the next testing) when stretch is released. > All Stretch seems to be is Jessie with linux4 solving 75% of > its bugs, meanwhile the current old-stable will no longer be supported. That depends on the architecture. Most of us will see support for wheezy until at least May next year. > Meamwhile, there are critical bugs still open on testing from last year. > > Has Debian always been this crazy and am I so new to this madness? If you don't like it, you're free to look elsewhere for a distribution that better suits you. Cheers, David.
