2016-08-31 15:44 GMT+02:00 Stefan Monnier <monn...@iro.umontreal.ca>:
> > It's better that your message Not arrive instead of being disclose! and > > This is the philosophy behind True P2P IM systems. > > Oh, I don't need 100% absolutely guaranteed delivery. > > Just some reasonable expectation that messages won't be silently dropped > on the floor in fairly normal circumstances. > > E.g. some email messages just don't get delivered, for instance because > they're misflagged as spam, but I still consider email as "reliable". > > As a counter example, XMPP silently drops messages in various normal > circumstances, which XEP-0198 tries to address, similarly SIP tends to > drop messages on the floor if the destination is not currently > connected. Another problem with XMPP is when you use several clients, > in which case not all clients will necessarily see all messages. > You can have a look at astrachat (http://www.astrachat.com/) It's a XMPP client available on Linux, Android, IOS, and Windows. > > As another example, BitMessage's approach of keeping messages for > 2 days, together with some way for the sender to know if the message has > been received, seems good enough. > > > Stefan > > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Stefan Monnier < > monn...@iro.umontreal.ca> > > wrote: > > >> > You can't have all the best together. > >> > >> What does that mean, exactly? Are you saying it doesn't have reliable > >> message delivery? If so, that'd be a deal breaker for me. > >> > >> > >> Stefan "shocked that anyone would want to design or use an > >> unreliable messaging system" > >> > >> > >> > This mention in previous E-Mails as well. E.g: > >> <20160817192400.GB9964@alum> > >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Stefan Monnier < > >> monn...@iro.umontreal.ca> > >> > wrote: > >> > >> >> > I think you looking for TOX! > >> >> > Visit TOX Project website: > >> >> > https://tox.chat > >> >> > >> >> Thanks. That does look promising (although I don't see any mention > of > >> >> reliable delivery), > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Stefan > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Stefan Monnier < > >> >> monn...@iro.umontreal.ca> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> I'm looking for a decentralized instant message system (e.g. XMPP, > >> SIP, > >> >> >> ...) where I can be sure that I receive all messages, even if I'm > not > >> >> >> connected when the message is sent [ Obviously, I'll only receive > >> them > >> >> >> when I'm back online. ] > >> >> >> > >> >> >> IIUC there is some XMPP features that allow such reliable > delivery, > >> but > >> >> >> it seems that it's not widely supported by clients. What Debian > >> >> >> clients, using which protocols, can provide reliable instant > >> messaging? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Stefan > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> PS: Bonus points if that feature is also available on an Android > >> >> >> application that's Free Software. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >
