On Sun 21 Sep 2014 at 18:08:58 +0100, Martin Read wrote:

> As far as the Debian-related aspects of the matter are concerned, it
> seems to me that it would not be unreasonable to file bugs against
> sysvinit-core and upstart suggesting that they should have a
> Recommends: reference to systemd-shim.

A systemd-shim maintainer would disagree:
 
  > In that case, perhaps the alternate init systems should Recommend
  > systemd-shim?
  No, that's not the true package relationship.  There's no reason that you
  should always get this added service by default when you install a system
  with non-systemd init that doesn't need logind.  Making this a recommends
  would be a workaround for bad metadata in the libpam-systemd package; we
  should fix that problem at its source the right way.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/09/msg00164.html


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