People might find it instructive to read Mark Shuttleworth's offering - particularly the title: "Losing graciously". http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
Lisi On Friday 29 August 2014 00:09:44 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 05:51:13PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:39:56 +0100 > > > > Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The OP and a few others are determined to have endless flame wars > > > about systemd. The OP in particular has started endless "threads" on > > > this subject. > > > > > > Since we cannot stop him, please can't the rest of us just ignore > > > him? At least the threads will then be short. PLEASE. If you like > > > Debian, use it. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you want to > > > fork it, fork it. > > > > > > This once super list is becoming a pain, > > > > And so, let's put 100% of the blame for the list's becoming a pain on > > the OP and those who agree with him, and 0% of the people who replaced > > something that worked, for most of us, with something requiring deep > > integration not only with system software, but with applications. > > > > After all, if you don't walk in lockstep with Lennart Poettering, the > > guy who brought us PulseAudio and pisses on POSIX, then you must not be > > a Debian person, and you shouldn't express your opinion! > > > > SteveT > > > > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ > > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance > > Steve, > > Put in 17 years of working on/with Debian (as I have) then accept that > most Debian developers use and want the working Debian they have or > something at least as good. > > Accept also that even those who disagree with systemd philosophically > are still prepared to work within the system to produce the best Debian > they can - working on things lke how to get all of the architectures > and the BSD variant kernels to at least co-operate with systemd > > Then accept that this Debian is not the only distribution to follow this > path - and that there are Debian developers who may not agree wtih > Lennart, are equally good coders but are prepared to come to a > consensus to produce the distribution you're happy to consume. > > If you can't do that, please go away and allow some of us to actually > carry on using, supporting, developing Debian and sometimes using this > list for the benefit of others. > > Put in 17 or 18 years worth THEN complain. > > With respect, > > AndyC > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: > > https://lists.debian.org/20140827175113.24f27...@mydesq2.domain.cxm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201408291427.23520.lisi.re...@gmail.com
