On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:03:53 +0300 Andrei POPESCU <andreimpope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sb, 05 iul 14, 14:25:57, Steve Litt wrote: > > First things first: I'm Steve Litt, using the same email address I've > > used since 1996. You may or may not believe me a troll, but you have to > > admit I'm not some guy coming around yet again with new email address, > > trying to fool everybody. > ... > > conformant to the Unix Philosophy. Now comes systemd, which, from what > > I've heard, is a further step away from the Unix Philosophy, in that it > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > is more monolithic and exerts more control and more continuous control > > over all programs, from what I understand. And most un-Unix of all, > > from what I understand it has binary log files. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > .... > > In other words, from what I hear about systemd, it would be more > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > It looks to me like the main goals are to boot faster, and to tie > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > You say you don't want to troll, yet you make a lot of claims based, as > you yourself admit, on hearsay. > > > My plan is to switch to systemd, see how I like it, and if I don't, > > install the old boot system, or if that can no longer be done, switch > > distros. I don't see systemd as the end of the world. *But*, I think a > > discussion of a plan B is very ontopic, because if the conversion to > > systemd turns out to be even 1/10 the fiasco that the kmail to kmail2 > > change was, we all need a systemd alternative, and a plan to make that > > switch. > > Change is difficult and there will be problems. On the other hand > systemd is used by a lot of distros already and the alternatives either > bitrot (sysv-init) or aren't really viable (OpenRC, etc.). > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Usually I'm not going with "the crowd" in my choices, but so far systemd > has worked fine for me (according to my git log I made the switch last > December) and I have no reason to even look at the alternatives. > > Kind regards, > Andrei (currently involved in another major transition at work and > eagerly waiting for it) > -- > http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser > Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic > http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt Why do you think that OpenRC isn't viable alternative? AFAIK on Gentoo it works quite well. I'm currently playing with it on Debian and i haven't had any problems so far. Best regards, Miroslav Hrabal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140707213354.87cac140ae7cb6420879a...@gmail.com
