On Sun, September 9, 2012 7:43 am, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:03:30 -0700, Weaver wrote: > >> On Sat, September 8, 2012 8:51 am, Camaleón wrote: > > (...) > >>>> The reason they don't is the install procedure. >>> >>> (...) >>> >>> I think it's not that easy. >>> >>> First, because "untechie" users neither have to install Windows nor >>> MacOS as both usually come along with the computer in a pre-installed >>> form thus they only have to provide some basic data. >> >> Yes, a couple have made this point, but from my own personal experience, >> it's not the case. > > You mean you got your linux preinstalled within you computer? That would > be nice but I'm afraid not the norm :-)
No, I mean that I have always had to install/reinstall Windows, because the software has usually been as broken as the secondhand boxes. > >> I am not what you could call 'financially endowed' and always obtained >> older and, in many cases, in complete boxes. I couldn't afford the brand >> new OEM boxes, so always had to install Windows, when I used it, myself. >> I had to buy that. > > That's a different user case. But then, Windows installation is not that > straight-forward because you may have to provide some basic drivers (for > the storage controller) and manually partition the hard disk, choose the > file system to use, etc. I don't remember anything like that, but I should qualify that with the info that I haven't dealt with Windows since XP, which is when I finally gave up on it. > >> From memory, it ran itself. > > I really doubt it. No, really. My only recollections are of that blue screen with a loading indicator running across it, which told me, after my first couple of installs, that I could go and make another cup of coffee. > >> There were perhaps a couple of questions that didn't require reference >> to Einstein, but that was all. > > Not the questions the "joe" user is able to provide without help. Perhaps this has come along lately, as an inducement for Joe-User to go for the OEM variety, so they can cut back on their totally inefficien support staff. > >> Nothing anywhere near as complex as an expert Debian install, which is >> what I prefer now. >> Not to the point of being one of the 'High-Riders', but I'm getting >> there. Regards, > > Well, it would be more fair to compare the Windows installer with Debian > grahical installer that is the deafult. And of course, not with the > expert installer; as its name indicates, is not for beginners ;-) Well, no, I'm not advocating they do that, either. I mean that the expert install is only what I prefer. Regards, Weaver. -- "The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US . . ." -- Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d74b710b7d7f593c06737d3c88183e71.squir...@fruiteater.riseup.net
