On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 17:10 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> >
> >>Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 10:36 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:32:48 +0300
> >>>>>Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >>phonemes. In my dialect of spoken English, the words "do" and
> >>"dew" are distinguished by the use of the hard /d/ in the first,
> >>and the palatal /dj/ in the second. Other dialects do not so
> >>distinguish, pronouncing both /du/. I say /du/ and /dju/,
> >>respectively.
> >
> >
> > If I'm reading correctly, you pronounce "dew" (condensed atmospheric
> > moisture) and "Jew" the same way.
>
> No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put those symbols
> inside of slash marks. That means that they are phonemes,
> and the /j/ phoneme indicates a sound similar to the consonantal
> "y" in English, as in "yet". As an example of another two words
Oh, "j" like "jagermeister"?
> which are distinguished in my dialect via palatalization, consider
> the words "new" and "knew". The first I pronounce as /nu/ the
> second as /njew/ (spelled with sort-of English letters as "nyoo").
> Similar differences are in "boo" /bu/ and "imbue" /Im:bju/, where
> in the second word the "b" is palatal. The colon (":") marks the
> accented/emphasized syllable.
OK. Then if it's really a "yuh", why use a "j"?
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