On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 07:11:23PM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 07:32:06PM -0400, Seneca wrote:
> | On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 05:21:11PM -0500, dman wrote:
> | > On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 05:25:11PM -0400, Seneca wrote:
> | > | On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 03:25:47PM -0500, Ron wrote:
> | > ...
> | > | > P.S. - Confirmation messages are not a "feature"!
> | > |
> | > | They are when they meet the teacher's specifications: written in java,
> | > | use AWT, are a class, and use buttons, frames, and the appropriate
> | > | listeners. Each time one comes up in my testing of my programs, there is
> | > | about two minutes of swapping. Give me a command line anyday.
> | >
> | > There's the problem. Java. Are you doing java2 or just 1.1? If 1.1
> | > then maybe kaffe or gcj will be an improvement over sun's jdk. Just
> | > for fun I decided to start up a couple of (non-trivial) java programs
> | > I have that use Swing/AWT. One had an RSS of about 20MB, the other
> | > almost 30MB, and that was after doing nothing but starting them.
> |
> | Currently just 1.1 (what's at school), although the teacher uses java2
> | for all the sample programs, and is planning to change the school over
> | soon. The entire course is java (a few years ago the course was c++, but
> | then the teacher discovered java).
> |
> | kaffe is a virtual machine, and gcj does not support inner classes. I
> | can't use gcj because I use inner classes and other extensions. I can't
> | use kaffe because I need more than a virtual machine.
>
> I know gcj is (or has been) behind, but I just tested the inner class
> thing with gcj 3.0.4 (package gcj-3.0) and it worked.
I didn't see gcj-3.0, I only noticed gcj.
> What more do you need besides a JVM that kaffe doesn't provide?
> Supposedly it has a compiler too ('kjc'), but it isn't working on my
> machine. Actually, for compilation use jikes. It's written in C++
> and is way sleeker than javac (faster, lighter weight, better error
> messages).
I took a look at jikes, it seems interesting. I think I'll try it. I
hope it reacts properly to the source, unlike IBM VisualAge, which
consistently messed up on a certain subclass to Window that I wrote.
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