"Karsten M. Self" <kmself@ix.netcom.com> writes:

> on Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 11:38:43AM -0500, Brian Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > "Karsten M. Self" <kmself@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > 
> > >   - It's (largely) bound to a specific viewer.  Which, if you don't use
> > >     emacs, isn't particularly usable, and is about as intuitive
> > >     as...well, emacs.  This has changed as additional viewers are
> > >     avilable (e.g.:  pinfo -- based on lynx...but, of course, I don't
> > >     care for lynx's keybindings, and use w3m instead....)
> > 
> > Funny, I prefer w3m over links and lynx because of its emacs-like key
> > bindings.  :)
> 
> W3M has, to my mind, fewer surprises.  One of the things about Info is
> that an awful lot of key combinations lead you places, from whence
> returning is difficult.  It's also easier IMO to find and read the help
> reference in W3M.  Riddle me this, but I find a full-screen help page
> much more useful than a half-height one such as you get with emacs, vim,
> or info.  I've come to use 'screen' extensively, and find that I'm more
> comfortable rapidly cycling between multiple full buffers than trying to
> read two half-height windows.

Aw, come on, this is emacs.  I'm sure there's a way to customize it so
that it won't split the window when showing a temporary help buffer.  Or
C-x 0 (that's a zero) will get the job done too.

> I don't dislike emacs keybindings per se (I find most legacy MS Windows-
> centric word processors unusable because I expect to find C-a, C-e, C-k,
> C-p, C-n, C-s, C-r, etc., on them.  Abiword's supposed to have an emacs
> mode though I haven't got it to work).  That said, I find vi a more
> comfortable editor generally.

The thing that really bothers me about vi is that it's very
QWERTY-centric and feels very awkward with another layout, like Dvorak.
The most often-used keys are chosen due to their position in the home
row, and are completely meaningless in any other context (for example, j
moves down, k moves up???).

Emacs' key bindings, however, are not aimed toward any particular layout
but instead are often chosen as abbreviations of English words (C-n =
next line, C-p = previous line, C-s = search, etc.).  Since the Dvorak
layout has the most commonly used letters in the home position, these
key bindings tend to feel more natural on Dvorak (at least to me).

-- 
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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