-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ok, so this is my 2 cents worth.
GUI utilities are ok, command line utilities are ok, simple dialogs are ok, this is not the issue. The real issue is not to fall into the Microsoft or RedHat paradigm. This is a flavour of Unix, Unix is not trivial, Unix is a fairly mature fully featured operating system and you have to know at least a little about what you are doing and be prepared to read the manual before you do something useful. IMHO one of the reasons that there is a contest between NT and Linux is that Microsoft said that NT was so simple to install and use, unfortunately tuning and other administrative tasks can be a real pain. Linux never made any bones about the fact that you have to learn to be able to use it. It's not out of the box and run. I think that the efforts to dumb down the operating system and say that anyone can use it would hurt the Linux image, maybe irreparably. Apart from that all real computer enthusiasts are masochists any way. Tell someone that this is a system that only real men can use (sorry about the sexist remark but "real people" does not convey the same meaning) and you'll have them fighting to get at it (how do you think I started) and have a real sense of achievement when they manage to get the system to boot, and now PPP, and now bind, and now sendmail, and now ... Let Microsoft take the bashing from users who do not WANT to know. Stay just that little bit above the rest. Have all the tools in any and every form. Drag'n Drop is good, but so is rcp. And now it's back to work. __ _ Debian GNU User / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ Simon Martin / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Project Manager / /__| | | | | |_| |> < Isys \____/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.1 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBN99PNSTe2wIotMrcEQLUpQCg0g4Y22gkoXHf51aeQt3upQ8qK6UAoOTS qWoAPRGuyBGgw6H5LnWQK1BQ =0P97 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----