>>>>> "Keith" == Keith G Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Keith> Havoc Pennington wrote: Havoc> For example, look at "info" or "dselect" - regardless of Havoc> whether you personally like them, the many people that _don't_ Havoc> like them don't like them because the keystrokes are really Havoc> stupid and the general "flow" through the programs doesn't make Havoc> sense. However, this has _zero_ to do with the power of the Havoc> tools. Info keybindings are virtually identical to Emacs, and thus don't feel at all stupid to this Emacs user. In fact, I would be VERY annoyed if the info maintainers heeded Havoc's advice and redid the keybindings in the image of, say, vi. Keith> Dselect? Nice in many ways; yes, it's the non-standard Keith> keystrokes and lack of visual feedback ("has my search finished Keith> yet?") that are probably the worst things. Other than that *I* Keith> can't think of a much nicer way to address package installation Keith> in ncurses. That's right. And I have to disagree that the general flow of control in dselect "doesn't make sense" and "this has _zero_ to do with the power of the tools". Change the flow of control and I bet you'll lose some flexibility somewhere. dselect is the No. 1 reason I prefer Debian to Red Hat, period. -- Ian Zimmerman Lightbinders, Inc. 2325 3rd Street #324, San Francisco, California 94107