Those are words well spoken...
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Martin Konold wrote:
>
> > Yes, a very good point. I am offering a host for a mailing list.
> > We should first figure out how it should work and implement it
> > afterwards. There is definetelly a need for a improved dselect.
> >
> > Actually why is the maintainer so silent?
>
> Perhaps you would be silent if discussions about your package were turning
> into some semi-serious bash N trash sessions. I'd like to offer my two
> cents about Debian and dselect:
>
> Most of us are brand new to Linux or are advancing up the UNIX ladder when
> we install Debian on a machine. Personal computers offer an ability to
> experiment that the departmental or enterprise server won't give us. With
> that experimentation comes a few oopses and a few lessons learned. With a
> true multitasking, multiuser system comes certain hurdles about the boot
> process and services (daemons).
>
> Keep in mind that we are all getting a generally fantastic product for the
> best price anyone could ask for. I've never been involved in the
> development of any of the DEC boxes which handle our campus net services,
> but I believe the standard sequence goes like this:
>
> get and compile gcc with the cc that came with the machine.
> get and compile emacs with gcc.
> get and compile tcsh, now that you can edit Makefiles with emacs.
> get and compile perl, now that you've got a shell you're familiar with.
> get and compile sendmail, so email can actually flow.
>
> Heaven forbid one of us gets a compilation error, and wait until it's time
> to build inn!
>
> Take your time with Linux. I openly admit that I had overly high
> expectations the day my first Pentium arrived. Now that I've finally
> acquired my second Pentium
> (http://www.bucknell.edu/~templin/pages/computer if you're curious), I let
> one run Linux 24/7, and try new packages on the other. Mistakes will
> happen. Dselect might lead you astray. But accept what the Debian
> project has given each of us, and send a few thanks to each and every
> person who has contributed their own time to simplify your life, to make
> it possible for you to experience UNIX with a minimum of effort on a
> variety of hardware. The project leader has managed to get a few emails
> onto the list while cleaning out from a devastating flood. That's what I
> call dedication.
>
> How about we all take a step or two back and peek at what is in front of
> us? There's a lot there. It may not be the best it can be yet, but it's
> quite fine in its current form, and a menu-driven is certainly a step up
> from the command-line origins of UNIX.
>
> That said, who is willing to coordinate efforts toward gathering
> suggestions for dselect, and what is the next step that we need to take?
> I also have a machine which I am willing to offer up towards mailing
> lists, disk space, web pages, or whatever. Let me know how I might help.
>
>
> --Pete
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