On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 07:12:10AM +0100, Thomas Schorpp wrote: > as i see you try to maintain quality in debian efficently. > > ive been thinking for months now about inventing and adopting > the SPI-standards cmm(x), spice, iso12207, and iso 9001, > etc, in free sw's lifecycles > and would like to ask you about comments and discussion.
I certainly appreciate your efforts, but what I've read until now has a little bit too high level of buzzwords for me to be able to map your idea's on Debian. Certainly a lot of improvements are possible in Debian, but I don't think that can or will happen in one big go, but rather gradually. I myself have some idea's about that, but didn't yet invest the time to share them and try to implement them. Everything within Debian is ultimately a human task, and my focus atm is to detect if and where there are tasks that have insufficient or inadequate manpower assigned. This very general sentence catches issues like inactive maintainers, busy maintainers, wrong people on the wrong tasks, or tasks that don't have any people assigned to it. I'm currently in process of a big sweep over all package maintainers, when I'm done, at least all inactive maintainers should be detected and a solution found. I've currently mailed 121 different maintainers already, and still some 60 to go. When I'm done, I'll summarize the results on this list (or a list with a broader audience). I'm also paying attention to tasks that are not package maintainance tasks, but they are more complex to handle as those tasks are of much more diversity, and also there is much less information available to assess how it is going, unlike package maintainance, where there is a plethora of tools and metrics available. Most tasks don't have a BTS entry, for example. If you want to contribute to improving Debian's QA, I think it's essential to learn about how things work in Debian now, so that you can do smaller and more targetted propositions on improvements. When I've a bit of time, I'll read through all your texts more thoroughly, to see whether some idea's can be applied to Debian, I unfortunately didn't find the time for that yet. --Jeroen -- Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357) http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl