On 00-12-16 Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Christian Kurz wrote: > >... > > > package this is sometimes enough to pass the "Tasks & Skills" test (e.g. > > > > Well, do yo have some other examples too? I think one example is nice, > > but some others would be good to have.
> E.g. > http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint-discuss-0011/msg00018.html Well, this is again one developer, which has noticed after some mail exchanges with him, that his procedure to do the task&skill check wasn't good and will change it from now on. > http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint-discuss-0012/msg00088.html Alright, this is an other good example. > Please note: I don't say that these applicants shouldn't become Debian > developers at all. I do only doubt they are already skilled enough. Agreed. Both maintainers would have needed a bit more time to get used to our debian philosphy and build-system. > >... > > > - A developer can make an upload for every single package in Debian. > > > We trust him that he doesn't do any harm. > > > > Do you want a system where you can only upload packages where you are > > the Maintainer? This would make it hard to do bugfixes and NMUs, if the > > maintainer went MIA. > >... > No, I don't intend to change this. My point is: Someone who has a Debian > account can do much harm (intentional or accidential). That's a reason why Right, but there's no protection against human errors, which can also happen to a extremly high qualified person with for example an iq of 200. You can only protect debian against people who want to harm it. > I think we should have a severe look at the work of an applicant before he > gets an account. Well, depends on how we define severe. > > this decision. But then you need to make sure that the sponsors have a > > good knowledge about the debian build system and are qualified to make a > > judgement about a package. > That's one reason why I suggest the following: > > > suggests to the NM team that he should become a Debian account. The NM > > > team (perhaps the current NM-Committee plus other interested Debian > > > developers) then looks critical at the work of the applicant, makes a > > > "Philosophy and Procedures" check,... and discusses and decides whether > > > the applicant will be a valuable gain for the project. Well, this would still mean that you either need a list of predfined criteria, which will be a bad thing and also create new problems. Or you need to depend on the NM-comittee and believe that they make the right decisions. I think this is a part of the current NM process that needs no change as it's working fine. Only a bit more sponsorship and a bit more careful task&skill test would be helpful. Ciao Christian -- Ein "Nein" ausgesprochen mit der tiefsten Überzeugung ist besser und größer als ein "Ja" um zu gefallen oder noch schlimmer, um Schwierigkeiten zu umgehen. -- Mahatma Gandhi
