On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 16:13, Yaroslav Halchenko <deb...@onerussian.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> I absolutely agree with this (even though, for those packages that >> byte-compile the files they install, it's a smaller problem) and I >> fear there are several situations where there are hidden bugs only >> discovered with (long) *usage* of a system with 2.6 as default: >> waiting to do the switch, doesn't help to release a better squeeze, >> only a worst and buggier one. > Well, to catch those we have an extended army of beta-testers: > users of recent Ubuntu releases with 2.6 as default -- for me they > managed to hit 2.6 issues with fail2ban so upstream could resolve them > promptly year(s) before 2.6 to become the default in Debian ;)
yeah, because our beloved python maintainer did the switch in Ubuntu first, instead of in Debian (and ah, right after 9.04 freeze started, releasing a mess, still present in 9.10)) > So, it might be worth for python package maintainers to have a peek at > their packages in Ubuntu to see if they got something fixed without > reporting upstream/ but I'd like to remember to critically (in the positive sense) review the patches and only apply them if they are worth: there were several clueless patches to fix 2.6 bugs. >> Additionally, as a side note, unstable is "unstable" by definition: >> its users knows it, and if something breaks in it, it will either be >> fixed or not in stable, so "break users apps" problem is less >> appealing (even though it exists). > although I totally agree with description of 'unstable', in reality, the > path from unstable into stable, closer to freeze it is, is shorter -- > just 10 days to migrate from unstable into testing. For the packages > with low users count it becomes more important since it becomes unlikely > that an important bug would get detected that rapidly.... So.... > lets switch to 2.6 now so we have more time! Exactly my point. Regards, -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8b2d7b4d1003020721v230ccdc7w470431d07dc99...@mail.gmail.com