On 09/03/2014 07:21 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Scott Kitterman <skl...@kitterman.com> writes: >> Manoj Srivastava <sriva...@debian.org> wrote: > >>> How do you suppose we keep the atmosphere from devolving back to >>> the poisonous flame-fest days, and enforce various codes of conduct >>> policies? I have seen far too many tech conferences without codes of >>> conduct devolve into misogynistic and occasionally racist >>> experiences. The argument that codes of conduct are forms of censorship >>> is frequently made, but, I am afraid, not very convincingly. > >> None of those things are at issue in this case. It's not relevant. > > What case? Ian raised a bunch of general questions about how we plan on > enforcing our CoC, with no reference to any specific incident. You seem > to be convinced that this is about some specific incident and, further, > about forcing some specific action about that specific incident, but so > far as I can tell, this belief on your part is not based on anything > that's been said in this mailing list.
Hmm, how can you argue this with the statement that we should not invite Linus on future conferences? > Even if you're right and this is all inspired by some specific incident, > the general questions are still worth discussing seriously in their own > right. There's no need to dismiss the entire conversion (or, worse, be > flippant about it in a way that implies that Debian doesn't care about the > experience of people on its mailing lists or at its conferences) just > because you *think* you disagree with the motives of the person who raised > the issues. True, but it's also unfair to dismiss the specific case because you want to take it broader. Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54078163.4000...@debian.org